clivecrous / nethack-tiles

Absurd Tileset contains many non-gpl images

Kaelis,

Just a minor point of correction: neither this project nor any of my other projects use GPL. I generally use the NetHack Public Licence for NetHack related projects or BSD if not tied directly to or with NetHack source code.

However, that does not change copyright infringements. Please let me know if you find any.

Thanks
Clivee

by Clive Crous

Absurd Tileset contains many non-gpl images

Hey Clive,

iirc, you told me once that John(?) licensed the Absurd tileset under the gpl? or at least the original version?

I’ll just grab the tilesets, and see what I can find, again...

by kaelisebonrai

Absurd Tileset contains many non-gpl images

I checked John’s site but I found no license information. I do remember the license, it was a strange and unique one. Once found I’ll post it if anyone’s interested. Basically John said you could use as you wanted - but it involved him using a baseball bat for something ... been a long long time, I can’t remember off hand.

by Clive Crous

Absurd Tileset contains many non-gpl images

list of known infringing tiles..

monster.golem.clay golem <-- Children’s TV Character "Gumby"

monster.golem.crystal golem <-- Psi-Killer (iirc) from D&D 3rd Edition Psionics Handbook (recoloured)
monster.golem.diamond golem <-- Psi-Killer, again.
monster.golem.ruby golem <-- Psi-Killer as above...
monster.golem.sapphire golem <-- Psi-killer, as above..
monster.human or elf.elf-lord <-- High Elf Knight/Hero, I believe, HeroQuest -- Gamesworkshop

monster.human or elf.doppelganger.png <-- doppleganger/ethreal doppleganger from a D&D monster manual, i believe...

monster.human or elf.earendil <-- again, High Elf minature from Games Workshop
monster.human or elf.elvenking<-- more High Elves from GamesWorkshop
monster.human or elf.froster <-- still more high Elves from gamesworkshop

monster.human or elf.healer <-- Battle.net Starcraft/Diablo II image

monster.human or elf.igniter <-- same high elf as in in monster.human or elf.froster

monster.humanoid.dwarf king <-- dwarf from games workshop miniature lines...

monster.humanoid.master mind flayer <-- looks to me to be direct rip from one of the D&D manuals...

monster.humanoid.mind flayer <-- again, looks like direct rip from d&d 3rd edition..

monster.keystone kop.kop kaptain <-- robocop, i believe..

monster.major demon.barbed devil <-- diablo from blizzard’s games

monster.major demon.mail daemon <-- monster from id software’s DOOM, slightly edited.

monster.quadruped.catoblepas <-- final fantasy... not sure which, FFVIII or FFIX, I /believe/.

monster.spider.lolth <-- looks familiar, could be deities and demigods, or some Forgotten Realms sourcebook, definitely ripped from D&D

monster.zombie.ghast <-- rip from another D&D book..

monster.zombie.ghoul mage <-- same as the ghast...

monster.zombie.ghoul <-- same as the ghast..

by kaelisebonrai

Absurd Tileset contains many non-gpl images

:(

by Clive Crous

Absurd Tileset contains many non-gpl images

I know Clive, mate, I know... =/

by kaelisebonrai

Absurd Tileset contains many non-gpl images

http://tineye.com/search

This is a very useful image search that allow you to find if your own copyright has been infringed by uploading your image from your computer and showing which websites have it stored/resized/watermarked.

I think it can be used to precisely know which pictures in the graphics pack are causing trouble.

by Carlos Hoyos

Absurd Tileset contains many non-gpl images

I’m going to leave off taking any action whatsoever in this project (for now). If anyone ever complains I’ll remove the entire absurd tileset with immediate affect. nhtiles is just a collection of tilesets made by others and some utilities to manipulate/resize and reuse in different nethack variants. I cannot take responsibility for infringements made my tileset creators who then released "their creations" freely.

The Vulture’s project, however, having merged absurd tileset over all it’s own graphic data where monster/object graphics where missing is a whole other problem and I need to remove Absurd from the now "tainted" source as soon as possible.

http://clivecrous.lighthouseapp.com/projects/11282/tickets/70-vultures-project-may-contain-copyrighted-images

by Clive Crous

Absurd Tileset contains many non-gpl images

Sorry, changed my mind :P

... perhaps I should leave the code for dealing with the absurd tileset in place but remove the tileset data and only reference a link. In that way preventing possible copyright issues.

by Clive Crous

Absurd Tileset contains many non-gpl images

The Absurd tileset is cobbled together from dozens, if not hundreds, of sources.

The majority of creatures, probably 2/3, came from "someplace".

They’re smooshed down and almost all have been recolored or altered in some way.

Some are art, some are photographs, heck, the stuff came from all over the place.

Having said that, I did that knowingly and willingly, and made no secret of it, as it’s obvious that what I did with the Absurd tileset would qualify as "Fair use", and I don’t care what people do with the final product.

Chop it up, use it for whatever. Who cares?

Having said that, I’d like to add that I put a hell of a lot of work into the thing, and only because I wanted it for myself, and no one else. If I could have done he whole thing using existing art, I would have. Of course, the vast majority of the images didn’t exist anywhere, so I had to make ’em by hand.

I wouldn’t worry about legal issues regarding the tileset. It’s been something like five years since I made the thing and no one had kicked my door in with a lawsuit.

by John Shaw

Absurd Tileset contains many non-gpl images

by Clive Crous