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Wage loans for employers who cannot pay a living wage #224

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@Floppy Floppy commented Oct 6, 2014

This is phrased as a loan, as a benefit would violate state aid rules, probably. This might do as well, of course, need an expert opinion there. Also includes change from #223, as they are a prerequisite for this.

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I was thinking perhaps very small employers (less than 5 employees) should be exempt?

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Floppy commented Oct 6, 2014

From which part - minimum wage? Pop that in #223 if that's what you mean, this bit builds on that.

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tmtmtmtm commented Oct 6, 2014

What's the rationale behind this one? Is this meant to be a temporary measure for companies that need to restructure in some way to meet an unexpectedly changing wage bill? Or a long term plan to effectively subsidise companies that can't afford to do business?

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Floppy commented Oct 6, 2014

It's a way to offset the fear that having to pay a living wage will make some businesses unprofitable, by providing a temporary measure to allow them to adapt, yes. Definitely not long term.

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What policies should we propose to maintain a competitive economy that provides [full employment](http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Full_employment.html)?

## Minimum Wage

The minimum wage should be set to the same value as the living wage (currently £14,458.50 based on 252 working days of 7.5 hours per day at £7.65), and automatically adjusted in line with that figure.
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I suggest we change this to:
The minimum wage should be set to the same value as the [living wage](http://www.livingwage.org.uk), and automatically adjusted in line with that figure.

It's only going to get out of date and look bad otherwise :) Plus, I think the annual calculation (mine, originally IIRC) is wrong.

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This change seems to be introducing a new regionalised aspect that wasn't in the original, in that the URL makes a distinction between a London Living Wage, and the rest of the country. Is that intended?

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Brilliant 👍

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Floppy commented Oct 26, 2014

I'm going to 👎 my own proposal, as I want to refine it slightly before it goes in.

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Floppy commented Oct 26, 2014

Of course, my vote gets ignored, so I'd better just make the change.

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Still a 👍 from me

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@PaulJRobinson Happy with @Floppy's amends to this one?

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Floppy commented Apr 30, 2015

This one has been adjusted from the original wording, and is just waiting for votes to approve it, so I'd rather not close it as dead. @PaulJRobinson, are you still a 👍 on here?

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Good idea 👍

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Floppy commented Feb 8, 2017

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