Name suggestions

[sebmck]

• esnext
• 2015to5 (Over my dead body)
• 20xx
• jsnext
• JS.next
• ESEdge
• JSEdge
• Autobot
• Rosetta
• Babel
• Transformer
• TransformerJS
• RewindJS
• nextjs
• JSworks
• JSkit
• next2now
• HighFive
• milljs
• espro
• estro
• next.js
• forward.js
• riches
• Continuum
• Looper
• McFly
• Biff
• TwelveMonkeys
• T-800
• Retcon
• Backporter
• Nostradamus
• JSOfTheFuture
• Jarvis
• ESX
• ECzMA
• OnRamp
• Crossfade
• agile.js
• rapid.js
• es.js
• pileup
• Transmogrify
• Alchemy
• AC tranSlater
• eslang
• Tardis
• TimeLord
• DumbifyJS
• FastForward
• FlashForward
• Obamacare.js
• Fest
• Nest
• Pest
• Jet
• Switch
• FringeJS
• ExceedJS
• VantageJS
• oracle.js
• modern
• prophecy
• sybill
• erised
• thestral
• firenze
• vanga (not vagina)
• proximus
• posterus
• nuance
• retro
• rasputin
• Wells
• Herbert
• dat
• Tomorrow
• Ambitus
• Prometheus
• silverbullet
• magicbullet
• Xto5
• XtoY
• StarJS (*JS)
• Downcast
• Pimp My JS
• Harmony
• strawman
• Uplift
• Evolve
• Pythia
• NotTerrible
• LobotomizeJS
• Affinity
• Concord

[hawkrives]

I think I'm partial to the "random" names; rosette and babel, in particular.

[stefanpenner]

jsnext

👍

[jridgewell]

Babel could actually be a good one — it translates all this cutting edge JS into a common language.

[sebmck]

I like Rosetta and Babel because they both have origins in language translation which links back to the actual goals of 6to5.

[chicoxyzzy]

How about Babel fish?

"The Babel fish," said The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy quietly, "is small, yellow and leech-like, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals picked up from the speech centres of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear you can instantly understand anything in any form of language. The speech patterns you actually hear decode the brainwave matrix which has been fed into your mind by your Babel fish.

in memory of Douglas Adams

also:
Betelgeuse

[terinjokes]

👍 to babel (or babel fish), "Rosetta" is fairly well established for other commercial products.

[sebmck]

Only problem is that I sound ridiculous saying "babel" with an Australian accent.

[jamiebuilds]

Only problem is that I sound ridiculous saying "babel" with an Australian accent.

I'm now convinced this is the best name for the project.

[gaearon]

I like babel.

[dashed]

You can shorten it to just bab. /hipster

[cesarandreu]

👍 to babel, babeljs, jsnext, or nextjs.

[monsanto]

If 6to5 is gonna have transformers for profiling, optimization, minification, etc as hinted in the future scope thread, then names like "js.next" don't really capture the full spirit of the project imo

what about a name like "JSworks" or "JSkit"

[barneycarroll]

"JSnext" is good but shares a name with a conference and is similar to "nextJS" (also extant). Of course, the inadequacy of "6to5" isn't just in the fact that ES6 isn't indicative of the target implementation, but the fact that ES5 isn't even the target environment (in the near future I might be using this to compile to ES6 or — suspend your disbelief — someone might extend the project to work in IE7 ;).

How about "next2now"? I think that sums up the general spirit without being too limited in scope or recondite (who wants this to be associated with Altavista's automated translation service?).

[despairblue]

I like babel.

I'm strongly against rosetta, since every german will be reminded of anus when talking about this project. This was actually the bases for all jokes in german media when talking about the rosetta space probe.

I'm not saying you shouldn't use a name because some ethnicity objects, just saying it'll feel weird to me, and probably other german speakers 😂

[dashed]

@despairblue Well it's gotta come out somewhere right? 😄

Throwing another suggestion to the pool: milljs

[RReverser]

BackToTheFuture.js 😄

[chicoxyzzy]

IMO we should avoid js postfix

[despairblue]

@dashed true, but I feel that 6to5 does not produce crap, quite the contrary 😉

@chicoxyzzy 👍

[phpnode]

• jsnext is pretty cool.
• espro
• estro
• next.js
• forward.js
• riches (because who wouldn't want to npm install riches?)

[stefanpenner]

riches (because who wouldn't want to npm install riches?)

sounds hard to google for though :P

[sebmck]

@RReverser

BackToTheFuture.js 😄

The name I used for 6to5 before I publicly released it was actually delorean 😜

[dashed]

delorean is now a flux thing http://deloreanjs.com/

[sebmck]

@dashed Seems like everyone and their dog has their own flux implementation.

[RReverser]

The name I used for 6to5 before I publicly released it was actually delorean 😜

Good to know we are on the same wave :D

[chicoxyzzy]

BTW
https://github.com/mitsuhiko/babel
https://github.com/gossi/babel.js

[sebmck]

@chicoxyzzy Every simple name will probably be taken by some obscure library.

[caspervonb]

My two cents, should try to avoid things that already exist in the not only npm registry, but also the unix ecosystem. Prime example of this is swig, which has existed for over a decade yet there is a really popular npm package, with a binary that has the same name.

[caspervonb]

And a mandatory random suggestion eslang

[rauschma]

TV/movie-inspired names:

• Continuum (TV show)
• Looper (movie)
• McFly? Biff?
• TwelveMonkeys
• T-800

More names:

• Retcon
• Backporter
• Nostradamus

[pesho]

Throwing a few more:

Uplift (in the David Brin sense - because it makes primitive browsers evolve and understand future tech; it also uplifts your code)
Evolve (continuing the same line of thought; taken on NPM though)
Pythia (the oracle of Delphi, instead of just oracle which is unusable for various reasons)
NotTerrible (inspired by #596 (comment))
LobotomizeJS (because DumbifyJS was apparently too soft, nobody liked it 😢)

P.S. +1 for Shift

[darkyen]

Pythia +1 and use then use this image

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[jtangelder]

Xtojs?

[dashed]

adaptable

[dashed]

Concord is taken: https://github.com/webpack/concord

[developit]

Can I put in a vote for leaving it as 6to5? I get that it's not ideal, but that todo list looks pretty brutal, even just for users. It's a bit more than just a dependency change, since the typical (and doc-recommended) pattern for importing 6to5 assigns it to a variable called to5.

Or... what about to5? (it is available on npm)

If you do change it, switch and jsnext are the best. As silly as it is, one of the appealing things about the 6to5 project for me was actually how cut-and-dried the name was.

[sebmck]

@developit See #568, regarding the project future and scope. I'm not comfortable with the name and nothing is really going to change that. The current ES target is as low as we can reliastically make it (in a lot of cases ES3) and we already support some ES7 features so the name is already completely wrong without having to stretch the project scope at all. Having a conflicting name is bizarre and doesn't make me feel good about the projects longevity.

[developit]

Ah, hence the to5 portion still being incorrect (good to know, I was wondering why the docs mentioned including es5-shim when loose mode seems to mostly alleviate the need).

[AluisioASG]

2js?

[pesho]

ECMAswitch
ECMAshift
ECMAstrip

[darkyen]

JS

[stefanbruvik]

• yayES 😜
• target
• terminus, (terminES)
• forth (but obv. taken)
• 2current
• 2now
• j2j
• toJS
• The transpiler formerly known as 6to5

[jaydson]

Harmonizr

[UltCombo]

@jaydson nice idea, but a transpiler with that name already exists https://github.com/jdiamond/harmonizr

[jaydson]

:/

[elclanrs]

I like Continuum and Harmonizr the best. I understand there are projects with these names already, but they have been abandoned. How about we ping the developers of those projects and ask for their opinions?

[UltCombo]

@elclanrs IMO repurposing existing project names is rather confusing for those who have already heard of that project, plus those who search for resources would find stuff regarding the past project by the same name which is extra confusing.

[eemeli]

Inspired by this comment, why not just call it x?

[developit]

Then we could all ask others to "x 'ma script" (sorry)

[lukescott]

I know that you think that 6to5 holds a certain connotation towards "converting ES 6 to ES 5" and that somehow hinders your ability to do more. But the name isn't "ES6toES5". The numbers 6 and 5 can mean anything you want them to, and be as generic as the name switch. To me it means being able to stop working a 5 PM instead of 6 AM. ... Although not recently..., but still, saves me a ton of time!

My point is it's a name. And while the to-do list for changing the name is involved, you also have to consider developers updating their dependencies as well. And you're already well established with the name, it's short, and hard to confuse or misspell. For some reason when I think of 6to5 I think of a clock.

If you must change it, the suggestion I'll throw out is "fin", seen as "the end" seen in old films.

[sebmck]

Thanks everyone for your suggestions! Possibly leaning more towards what @lukescott said. I'll have to deliberate and decide. Again, thank you everyone!

[darkyen]

What's in a name? That which we call a rose,
By any other name would smell as sweet.

[kud]

Perfect. https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=babel&type=Repositories&ref=searchresults

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