hmm...
Hmm that's a hard one. Perhaps something that can have varying responses to specific language. I'm not sure how to define that fully, as you want them to be different each time. Not just scrolling, but spontaneous.
how about this: true artificial intelligence is impossible because true AI only occurs when it develops a conscious which is impossible? I sort of get at what you mean
I get what you mean too. Just like you, I am unsure if there is anything that is truly conscious.
that's pretty deep
Hahah I guess that sounded like it applied to everyone. I meant more of machines, but that's funny!
how could we define consciousness on basis of a conscious that is incomplete? ohhh okay
Hmm, that's hard. It's true that even with humans we judge based on this. Some people's behaviors or decisions are looked over because of an inability to understand. Like children. Or dogs. I mean, they cannot respond coherently, yet we view them as intelligent.
also true; there are certainly levels to consciousness and we assume the average adult to have a complete consciousness?
Hmm, this brings up a kind of interesting question then. So machines are programmed with certain responses. Obviously some are more advanced than others. They do act in their own accord too. Shutting down. Glitching. Turning off when they get too hot. Freezing. I feel like we do the same. I mean, think of pets. They are trained and programmed to respond certian ways, and sometimes they don't. Out of defiance or protection. I'm not saying that machines are defiant. I am just wondering if we sometimes view them as lesser, when they actually respond similarly to us? I'm not sure if that made any sense.
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It's a lot. Haha
instead of thinking of levels of consciousness in linear terms, I think you are suggesting we think of levels of consciousness on a plane (almost) like a mathematical plane where we can divide and categorize consciousness into four relative quadrants according to their nature
Hmm explain more! I am not familiar with this. Talk to me about the 4 quadrants!
well it's just something I've made up there could be different ways of organizing the information but I like quadrants
I like that too. What do you think the quadrants would be?
okay...do you know how the mathematical quadrants are labeled?
I do not!
on the standard Cartesian coordinate grid (the typical x and y axes), the top right is number one, the top left number two, the bottom left number three and the bottom right number four quadrant I would be human and natural quadrant II would be animal and natural quadrant III would be animal and artificial quadrant IV would be human and artificial
Ah, so each thing we are judging, would be a plot pointed somewhere on the graph. Some very much staying in their corner, while some drifted to the center?
yes.  as each example of the above category grew in similarity and differences to others, the point would move accordingly
Ah that's a really interesting way to think about it. I like that a lot. Do you think there is anything that exists that is already drifting quite close to each other?
hmm... maybe but unlikely as that's the best way to write down all the complex relationships between said levels of consciousness maybe it's a 3D grid instead and it would make more sense if the descriptions were the axes themselves
Hmm trying to picture it again. I can't do it. Explain a little bit further. haha
it's rather difficult to describe a 3D graph but as for the axes idea hmmm the positive y axis is what's natural the negative y axis is what's artificial the positive x axis is what's human the negative x axis is what's animal does that clear up some things for you?
Hmm not fully, but I am picturing what it might maybe look like. I have never been someone that could grasp math concepts too quickly, so you'll have to forgive me. Also, sorry to end the conversation, but I have to go. Thank you for your comments. I really enjoyed this conversation and I am glad you logged on! Perhaps we'l catch each other on here another time! we'll