The day of my birth Over and over and over
What? Why? I can see once but do you really want to do that more than once?
Ok not really but can you imagine ground hog daying your actual birthday Haha that would be a rollercoaster
Reliving your birthday just reminds me of Happy Death Day Plus it wouldnt be exciting after the first time
I wonder if, as a baby, you would even remember it really
Maybe we do remember it its just buried super deep
Interesting question I wonder if eventually (like after a LOT of repetitions) you'd pick up language or anything just from the brief conversations you can hear
Only if you tried to. Technically you would never age so you could master everything If i wanted to learn a language then i could just google information every day and learn all da Then when you finally got out of the loop you'd be a super genius
But I mean as a new born child I mean, who knows, maybe in addition to exposure over and over to language you need a certain, uninterrupted length of exposure to learn. Or maybe the variety of language you'd hear would be too little to learn from
Thats what i would think. If you had the capability to search for new information you could do it, but as a newborn you would be inept
Assuming you learned to walk after a lot of repeats, would you have the strength to do it?
Nope, pretty sure muscle development isnt advanced enough
Yeah, I believe that But I think you could pick up on some things Obviously newborns eventually learn to speak without having first actively sought out information
I think so too. The other issue is your brain isnt that developed yet either
It's kind of a weird genetic algorithm situation Yeah It would be cool to see what the physical limitations of the brain are
I dont know if you could advance in a language if your neurons keep reverting to newborn every day That would be cool
Well I'm assuming there's some kind of retention
Like how many trillions of bytes of data
I don't know what it is but isn't that how ground hog day works?
Yeah you always remember. I actually havent seen it though.
Me neither actually I just know the idea behind it
Bill murray is in it though. Thats always a plus
Haha yeah Maybe I'll see it one of these days Isn't it interesting how a movie title can become synonymous with an idea or concept?
Totally, ground hogs day is definitely the biggest
or like the name Inception has come to represent a form of recursion.
That was such a good movie The ending was insanly well thought out to make you think about the idea
Oh yeah One of my all time favorites for sure
You know it doesnt matter if the top fell or not? We still wouldnt know if hes dreaming or not
Yeah. I'd love to see a sequel. Not necessarily with the same characters or even actors But I think theres so much you can do with the idea It doesn't have to be an espionage film either I think it's cool that the whole film can be so rooted in this concept of entering people's dreams and yet it never needs to tell us HOW exactly they do it Or what kind of world they live in where that exists besides to say that it started as a military training tool
I think a prequel would be really good. Maybe how the tech was designed and all of the stuff that led to the movie
Ooooh yeah that would be way cool As long as it's done well
For sure, i would love to see them come up with a legit explaination
It could be ruined so easily Especially if it's not done by Christopher Nolan But it could also turn out sooo good
It would be such a sad movie too, becaus it would end with the death and his exile
Yeah, assuming it's about him That would be sad
Thats true, it seemed to me like his family had a big part in the beginning of the program His dad seemed to be involved as well as his wife and himself
Oh really? I never caught that I knew his wife was obviously I guess it's about time for a rewatch
Well he went to talk to his dad about finding a new architect and he knew exactly the type of person cob needed
I wonder if there's any fan theories or expanded universe type explanations. Oh riiight I forgot he was his dad Did it mention that his dad had worked as a dream architect too? That sounds like it might be right
You know what would be amazing? If they found out dreams were actually in a different plane of reality and the next level tech let them go there physically I think thats right
Ooooh that would be cool And it could make sense Because that plane of reality is already permanently able to affect the mind Just not the body So going there would only entail extending the effects of the world to the body as well as the mind "The world" meaning the dream world
Which would lead to insane medical techniques and warfare techniques
Oh man yeah It would turn that one scene in the opening of inception into a cool foreshadowing
It wouldnt be a spy movie anymore, it would be full on fighting That was such a trippy scene
Where someone (mal?) says "but pain...pain is in the mind" Yeah it would. I like the spy movie part though I think there's a good balance. Because too much action can overshadow the cool theory behind the whole inception premise That's why incpetion, although it had plenty of action, also had a bunch of really slow feeling parts
I think it would kinda be both in a way. It would kinda be a deux ex machina so i would limit it by making it take a ton of energy to actually do any physical damage
Yeah that's a good point
That way it doesnt just turn into a 007 film
That's a really good Idea Haha yeah Although those are fun too, in a different way
Not that Bond is bad. But they are all pretty much the same. Trust me, my dad had me watch all of them with him
Could you bring objects into the world too? Besides small things like your totem I mean Haha really? Like ALL of them? I've seen the Daniel Craig ones and some scenes from some of the earlier ones but that's it
Im pretty sure ive seen all except like 2 or 3
Wow that's impressive
I think the physical objects would also require energy to transfer through and wouldnt work the same way. Like the laws of physics would change You couldnt just imagine a gun and then use that to physically harm someone
I think it would be cool if you could bring other objects into the world (taking a lot of energy course - energy proportional to the mass of the object) Ooh yeah, like you could have a dream gun but it would only inflict mind pain
Oooo theory of relativity, i like that
And then there would be a lot of guessing as to which objects are real and which are dream ones The real ones would be really rare though But that could cause all kinds of cool standoffs and guessing games.
Thats true, like the good guys make a data drop in a flash drive or something and then imagine a bunch of fake one
Yeah Or the bad guys have a bunch of real weapons and come to a tense standoff with the goodguys and the good guys have to bluff that their weapons are real
It would be like another level to the whole im going to shoot you but my gun is actually empty. And you wouldnt know if you were hurt mentally or physically because the injury would look the same in the dream world
Ooh yeah I wonder how that would work Knowing the difference. Because for the sake of the plot you can't wait until you get out of the world to find out But there has to be an element of not knowing Maybe stronger willed people can look past the mental pain for a brief moment to see if they're really hurt
I think that not knowing woukd be the way to go. Because as you get weaker theres the risk of actually dying
Yeah, that's true Kind of like the risk of being left in limbo if you die too many layers into the dream
Or maybe the people with insane mental capabilities could stop the physical bullet from transfering and not let it injure them Like it couldnt go into the physical world because they stopped it with their mind
Ooh yeah, but imagine the energy that would take, because not only are you dealing with the mass of the bullet but also the kinetic energy of it coming at you Like, maybe there are three times in the movie where that happens. The first two times, the bullet is stopped BEFORE it's fired So the audience is under the impression that once it's fired it takes too much energy to stop And then at the climax someone get's shot with a gun we know is real And they don't stop the bullet in time and we think they're hit But it turns out by some miracle they stopped it WHILE it was flying
Yeah i like that. So the smarter you are with your moves, the better. Like just activating the saftey would stop it too
I dunno, it could be cool, maybe not Oooh yeah that's a good extension of that
It would legit be like magic
And maybe some people start bringing in guns without a safety and then adding a "dream" safety to it so if someone else tries to turn safety on They only do it with the dream safety There could be SO many different logic and mental games like that That would be way cool
But the government starts governing dream guns and everything which could cause real world issues
Yeah probably But of course a lot of the movie would probably take place outside what's technically legal Plus enforcing laws in the dreamworld would be a nightmare I don't even know where they would start
Maybe one of the characters would be in the enforcement group I bet you would have to register the portals
Maybe there's a specific device you have to use to get the energy to affect the dream world Yeah or something like that And they heavily control who has access to devices like that And if you try to affect a physical object in the dream world without such a device it draws energy first directly from you and then from your matter or something So it would be fatal for most amounts of matter
Yes, brilliant And some people would just use the old tech because then they couldnt get physicall hurt The downside is they couldnt do anything Wait have you seen valarian?
No I haven't What is it?
Valarian and the city of a thousand planets They are on a big ship with insane amounts of species
Huh, cool. Like noahs ark
But in the beginning they use virtual reality goggles to see another place and golves to affect it
Oh cool
That would be like a middle ground between total portal and just the mind swap
Yeah! Like the dream world could have a limmited number of vr controlled robotic arms or something Something that let's you sort of affect the physical world
And only the richest people would have the full portal and the government
Like whatever tech allows it was brought in by the government a long time ago before they realized how dangerous it all could be I'm talking about the middle ground still The vr -like thing
Yeah
But yeah, I agree with what you were saying And if a person is in the dream world mentally, their body is just asleep the layer up. Like in inception But if they are there physically, their body is not in the layer up
And maybe there are more than the dream reality and the physicall reality that we could access
So there could be a really cool scene towards the beginning of the movie Where the good guys think that the bad guys are there mentally But then they have contacts in real that manage to break into where the bad guys transport tech is, expecting to find them asleep and hooked up to the machines
But they would be there physically?
*real life So they instead break in to find way more advanced tech than they thought And no people at all And maybe before that a single one of the good guys was badly injured by a shot from the bad guys which they assumed to be a mental wound And suddenly they realize he could have been physically wounded too
And then they found out it wasnt! Brilliant!
It wasn't what? Oh, a mental wound got it
It wasnt a mental wound
Yeah! That could be really cool Man, I want to write a plot outline now haha
And another aspect would be ageing. Like how the mind aged before now if you get stuck physically you would actually age But you would age much faster because the dream world works faster
Ooh right
So that would be another risk of going in physically
There could be some emotional motives behind people trying to finish the mission quickly so they don't get too offset from their family Kind of like interstellar And maybe in the end one of them has to sacrifice being able to stay near in age to his family for the greater good of the world So he returns knowing he will die much sooner relative to them than he otherwise would have Maybe If the movie needs a sacrifice like that in the end
Yeah, and maybe you would be able to put energy into people to reverse it like how they take energy out in the princess bride
Oh haha yeah Maybe not reverse it But slow it down
Yeah that would make sense
Because you don't want to introduce the possibility of living forever by occasionally going into the dream world and reversing your age
So now becaue everyone needs a lot of energy for the dream world, all the tech companies are trying to make better energy Yeah that makes sense
Yeah, and there has to be a lot of work back in real life for each side to maintain enough energy for their co-workers in the dream to stay safe and not age too fast Maybe there's the risk of speeding up aging if the device that is feeding you energy to slow down the aging is broken and rigged to output energy So that it's literally stealing life from you and turning it into electrical energy or something Not that that has to be a key part of the movie It could be a really difficult or complex thing to do
Maybe there would be a power out at somepoint because of some terrorist team that would cause a ton of problems
But it makes sense with the way I imagine the tech to worl Ooh yeah And then there's a tense part for the people in the movie not knowing if they can physically get out or if they don't soon, knowing that they are aging faster than they planned *people in the dream world Not in the movie
Yeah thats awesome
Haha this has actually been super fun coming up with all these ideas
Maybe they could learn how to use the new tech to remotely pull of an inceptuon
Ooh that would be cool
I know right? We need to write a script
Haha yeah I'd love to see that happen I've gotta go for now though, I've got some more homework to finish before this evening
See ya