In today's society, computers could be given the right to vote. I say this because 'Sophia' the robot was granted citizenship in Saudi Arabia, not far from voting rights.
interesting I had no idea that Sophia is being reconized by the Saudi Aracbics
If people are fine granting Artificial Intelligence citizenship rights, who's to say they won't get voting rights sometime in the future.
would it be murder if we killed or turned one off?
Well, although society recognizes computers and robotics as deserving of citizen and voting rights, it doesn't mean I recognize it as right. I personally don't think it would be murder to kill one or turn it off.
what if you the robots passed the Turing Test?
Honestly, I only recognize killing one of God's living creations, whether a human being or an animal, as murder. Programmed, non-living material doesn't have a life to take. If it passed the Turing Test, it was only because a real human being programmed it in such a way to pass.
that is a great argument ok lets take out religion out of the factor does that change anything?
Thanks! I'd also like to know your opinion on the matter. Do you agree or disagree? Ok, with religion out of the factor, I'd still think the same way. Because the computer isn't living, whether or not it displays human behavior, I still think it wouldn't be murder
I think that if the robots have a consciousness just like we do and emotions and things like that I wuold treat it just like another human being but because they can't reproduce with another human I think that it wouldn't be a murder but I might feel bad or have a trauma if I didnt know I killed someone
I see your point, although just because it displays human behavior doesn't mean it's living. If robots were aware and living, then yes, I see what you are getting at.
interesting have you seen movies such as I robot, Her, Ex machina and TV shows like West World? some of these are pretty mature but it the whole idea of those movies is revolved around AI
Throwing religion back into the mix, I don't find it morally wrong turning it off. The Lord gave living things spirits, meaning humans and animals, as shown in D&C 77:2-3. It would be morally wrong to kill those, but computers? No matter how intelligent or human-like, I just can't view a machine in that way.
ok. I like your argument
I have only seen I, Robot
heres an argument back to you so we are heavenly fathers children right? we have the potential to be like him right?
Yes, exactly
so we program to create life then we are like him in a sense did God "program" us?
Look at it this way. Humans and living things reproduce right. So, considering this, God created us after his own image. He didn't program us to behave or act like him because we are living. He created us, he didn't use a different material and program it to act like him. If that was the case, how unfortunate it would be knowing I was only programmed to be like him. lol. I'd much rather be a creation in his image with a living spirit, soul, and conscience as we are taught
hmmm you have really good arguments I like you haha let me switch gears a bit then
aw thanks, you have valid points too
matter is not created or destoryed God always exisisted no beginning or end right?
yeah, indeed
so meaning that we have always existed. God did not create us he organized what was already there
yes
and also our spirits are organized right?
If they weren't we wouldn't be here, lol.
lol we are organizing matter when we create robots. so basically we are creating life just in a lower form from God's work
Well, here's where we diverge. Yes, we are organizing matter which can be compared to God's creation of us. And just as God creates, we humans have the potential to create although, when we create we are programming a machine to do tasks we forced it to learn, it is a mere copy of human intelligence, without a spirit, with independent thought or a free thinking mind But when God created us, he formed our spirits and our bodies. Now, I don't know how obviously, that remains one of the greatest mysteries of God. But he gave us LIFE When we create computers, we don't have the power to create life or spirits. Only God has that power. Now, say if we could, and the computer/robot did have a spirit and could think independently, my whole opinion on this topic would change completely. But since we, as humans, don't have that power. My opinion on the matter remains unchanged. The only power of life we are given is to reproduce within our own species. We can't organize matter and breathe a life and spirit into it.
jeez la weez are you some kind of professor too smart hahaha
Lol, no. I wish haha. I just enjoy learning as much as a can about a variety of subjects.  And I'm much too young to be a professor. Considering I have yet to go to college and am still a minor. But you're smart too! I love how you're giving me different points to truly think about and give an answer to.
thank you thank you so since you are still a minor and no college degree what are you wanting to do when you get here
Well, my plan is to major in Neuroscience, considering I would love to understand more about the human brain. Also, being passionate in the field of medicine, I consider my path through college to be the stepping stones to my career as a trauma surgeon.
oh my goodness that is a worthy goal my friend by your name I am guessing you are a girl?
lol, thank you very much. And yeah, I mean it's a blessing and a sacrifice. Considering in the future I'll have to balance helping to heal God's children with my own future kids Yes, I am a girl. :3
awesome heres a question for you then
lol, what about you? and ok, throw it at me. What's the question
if you feel uncomfortable then dont answer, but you might get married before you reach your goal of becmoing a trauma surgeon and have kids or are you just focused on trauma surgeon goal? hard question?
Well, here's the deal. I most definitely plan on doing both, considering both have been confirmed by the Lord for me as an individual. Others have their own paths, but this is right for me. I am fine with whatever comes first honestly. Whether I am blessed with the 7 children I hope on having (hopefully boys XD) first or become a doctor first, it's all fine as long as I rely on the Lord I'll be like President Nelson, a surgeon and a parent lol :P Although he's not a surgeon anymore, but you get my point lol
man at such a young age you know and plan on doing so much dont let that fire DIE out!
I won't! :D It's been my plan for 4 years now. I don't plan on letting it die out anytime soon. Thanks for the encouragement!
yeah no problem is it hard being a woman because you have to make those kinds of choices? career vs motherhood
It's not that hard of a choice, I did pick Both after all. However, motherhood will always be a top priority considering it's importance in God's eyes. My greatest success won't be how many patients I saved, it'll always be my children in the end
good for you!
yeah. haha. What about you, if you don't mind me asking. Any particular major that stands out or career path that interests you?
I am actually a senior in Information Techonology surprise! hahaha
Wow! That's nice. It seems you've come so far.
far is an understatement its was a lonnnnng journey hahaha
XD let me rephrase. Wow! That's nice. Your brain must be stuffed from everything you learned on this 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 light year journey
hahahaha yes exactly I was going to go to spring term but I decided not to I will still graduate on time
Well that's good. I want to take summer courses to see if I can graduate early, just as I did with high school
do it I bet you can do it because you are way smarter than I am
smarter? pfft. You're the one with a college education, not me. Haha. You're the smart one here lol
degrees dont mean much haha
well, I'm sure you know more than me regardless. You must've picked Something up after the long journey. XD
you need a masters degree at least now a days for certain fields in order to be even recognized for a job
yeah, that's true unfortunately. And then you spend your whole life in that job paying off student loans that you needed to get your masters degree in the first place XD
hahaha thank goodness BYU is cheap right?
yeah! totally At first I was planning on applying to Standfard, Harvard, and Yale, but then I was like, BYU is just as good, cheaper, has a spiritual environment and has better guys so why not lol
haha why not? i got into MIT and harvad but my mom was like no you go to BYU and you have no other choice
well, after all these years do you consider yourself happy with your choice? or, with the choice your mom made for you, haha
yes because of the cheap tuition
Nice! I'm glad you're happy with that aspect.
thanks! oh and also I met my lovely Girlfriend
Sweet. A partner is always a perk. Lol.
hahaha she has taught be a lot
Don't answer if you don't feel comfortable, but do you plan on marrying her or are you not sure? And I bet lol
yes I do we have been talking about it for a while now and it will happen but we dont know exactly when right now a lot of things are going on
Aw that's so sweet. Congratulations on your future marriage! And yeah, I bet life can get pretty hectic in college. As a teen no one really cares if you spend your time in a book or on video games for the most part. I get a free pass XD Life in college seems really busy tho, won't have too much time for those anymore sadly
oh yeah college you get a lot more responsibilties its a learning experience for sure
I bet! Well, it was nice talking to you. I wish you the best on the rest of your college year and with your soon-to-be wife. Hope you have a good rest of the night!
you too tristen maybe ill run in to yousomeday