Hey, hows it going?
not bad just grabbed a bite to eat
I was just on discord looking at some of the chats
now I am going to grind out the assignments
Not to be eaves dropping but hows your group doing?
great...
haha. it sounds like it.
I was really hoping they would be there yesterday It is just easier to coordinate in person
Noone was there yesterday, except for the "him" haha
Instead, I just wait for people to respond to texts and what not
and then the alex guinn guy just posts on the chat about asking if anyone had downloaded the tar yet Honestly if you need any help, we dont know it all, but we can help you I really feel bad
don't feel too bad, I will be grinding it hard tomorrow
But I also have a sense of humor and its kind of funny too Oh, thats good!
it is pretty funny
Aparently Chris was just bogged down by all of his homework that he just decided not to go yesterday to class He's fine though, in fact he just got on discord a bit ago. i think it is the cs 236 class you looking forward to that?
Not really I am worried that I won't be able to take it next semester But we will deal with that as it comes Oh man, if I have to retake these classes, I am going to laugh
I thought that you ended up getting into it just in a different sections section
At least I will go into them with a wildly larger amount of knowledge Yeah, it is about passing 235 and 224
Oh, I see I almost forgot that we have to pass classes to move on, we cant just take them haha
LOL yeah, that is just a little bit important
Ya, I guess I should focus on that a bit
Just show up
I dont really have too many worries of passing the class more of just getting good enough grades to continue scholarships Just show up? thats practically all I do
yeah, don't pass, show up to CS 236 "Hey guys" "I have no clue what is going on in this class"
Oh, I see Thats what I planned on haha CS 235 seems really easy though, I think I could survive and do well in CS 236 It almost seems like C++ from this point out is just learning optimizations Also talking about computer languages Does this class feel like we are expected to know C, but was never really taught. Haha I just feel like most of my C learning has come from google and the textbook Also, I just found out Dr. Jones isnt an MIT graduate, its my C++ CS 235 professor and it honestly explains so much! He is freaking dope! There are just so many things that
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he explains that makes so much sense and explains it as if were adults attending a class at MIT Ok, no worries Oh, wow after reading that last sentence, I just realized it sounds like garble he explains it so well and it makes so much sense when he explains it because he explains it to us as if we are adults, yet we are at an understanding of just C++ and no other programming background
Yeah that makes sense Dr. Jones is new to this on so many levels It shows
Its true. He seems really nice, but there are just things that make it hard to learn. The best part of this class has been the online content that he gives us But even at that I feel like the old presentations arent as good as his new ones I really like the new ones that he creates because he shows you exactly why things are the way that they are. In the presentations that have the blue screen as a background, I feel like they are harder to follow for some reason Its just the fact that he gives them as if it were a lecture
I remember what he said about those who are possibly failing the class I think it is a legitamate worry of his
wait I cant remember
It was in passing on Tuesday
oh, at the very beginning of the class? Oh, maybe I dont remember though
Maybe, I don't remember when
haha
He basically said there were 40 people not in groups which would translate to them failing the class
oh, ya, i do remember that! That was hilarious
and the department would not be happy about that
and then that one guy just piped up and was like no we just havent filled it out online haha The department definitely wouldnt be happy about that. Our calculus class was a big anarchy today at the beginning Our teacher was literally furious at all the ta's He told us that he wanted to send very strongly worded emails to each of them for the grading job that they did on the tests Mainly because he said he is now worried he is going to have to go back through and grade them all himself and there are a ton of us in his class I thought he was going to throw a table at the beginning
man, that is crazy (sorry for the slow responses by the way, I am working on Calc) What did you get on the test?
Its all good, I completely understand I should be working on assignments right now too
LOL
As you can tell, by all the messages Im just very focused on other priorities right now haha
Side note, we should definitely be buffing your stats tomorrow during class
I got a 72 on the test Its not horrible, but definitely not an a
72 is not tha tbad
I made simple mistakes throughout the entire thing. I went into it very nervous, because I had just spent the past 72 hours studying for it
that sucks that was the one that I walked into confident
one instance of the simple mistakes that I made was on one of the problems I did it all the way to the end and then had the answer, it had a -1 in it, and when I copied it into a another cleaner area to show my answer I put plus one and they ended up taking almost all the points away. Thats what he was talking about when he was ticked at the TA's. He told us even if you did not get the answer you can still get seven out of eight
the points that I lost on that were all very minor things
So today in class he was talking and asked what we wanted him to do
What is his name? Side note: are you familiar with how they assign TAs to Calc?
and then the class all erupted into give us an A and totally was taking advantage of the situation. haha His name is Tim krumviede. Hes a great teacher I dont know how they assign TA's The TA teachers are great, its not necessarily his TAs. Because it is a test that is done by the department all the TAs have one question on the test He was so furious about the way the testing resulted, he wasnt even sure what he was going to do about future tests like the next midterm or final. Or if he was even going to have them
Yeah, the TA who did one question screwed a lot of people by not filling in the bubble completely The TAs are former teachers who are leveling up their teaching lisence I have rubbed elbows with a couple of them due to my time at Lone Peak Overall, they come from a wide background and they might not be the sharpest when it comes to Calc Many of them are out of their element
Ya, i think that was number nine or something. I cant remember, but i got that one wrong too right now at least oh, that makes sense
9 was an error of input
Some of the TA's that grade our tests are the teacher tas too. Like the ones that we get on tuesday and thursday
I think it was 19, because the TA just put an X in the box
I was looking at that one a couple of days ago and was confused at what was wrong with it Then it made more sense after today You were exactly right on the test getting completely screwed up Its just insane that they dont check those things before they publish our scores. Dont you think that i would have been smart for them to go through all the solutions. Then they could just go through with the TA's marking things wrong or right I actually know which problem was my TA's It was the intermediate value theorem
Oh, that was a good one to grade I can't imagine how many errors they found on that one
I think I only missed one on that one, just because I missed the word continuous, but I can understand missing one point for that
I just laugh at how much heart ache they would have prevented if they had pulled all the TA's together to take the test and find the error
I actually thought I did fairly well on the test, it was just mainly those horrible grading errors
Oh, the grading errors...
no kidding, that would have solved all the issues and the pain that we are all going through after witnessing our horrible grades haha When I saw my seventy two, I just was questioning how? I really thought I was in the eighty percents Did I ask you this already? Are you doing anything fun for halloween? You doing anything with your kid?
Does studying count as something fun?
I think that counts as something Haha
I just text you a picture with me and my kid with the dog
I think around nine or so tonight Im going to go watch a quiet place with some friends
I was a Zoo Keeper Have you seen it yet?
Thats super cute Did you do the whole trick or treating thing? Is that hair natural on the dog? I cant tell if its the natural fur that the dog has haha Oh, I bet your ward had a trunk or treating night So... this week, Ive decided trick or treating is a lot weirder than I thought... So i grew up in a small town up in northern utah We always went trick or treating, but we all had houses. There are hardly any apartments and it was just weird to think that people go around to apartments that look getto
LOL, that is fake hair for the dog
to get candy haha
Yeah, that was for trunk or treat So far 4.1 is pretty easy
Oh that makes sense. After living in an apartment its just weird to picture trick or treating to other apartments I dont know why though in calc? or is this CS 224
I don't think I have ever seen trick or treating in an apartment Calc
Oh, I think I just finished 4.2 today. That was the written homework that was due today. Isnt it something to do with mvt I cant remember exactly what it stands for though or is that one the story problems ones? I did them but sometimes Im not entirely sure that I understand the whole thing. Oh well though, its like I said before, you may not now it all the way, but as you keep putting just one foot in front of the other, you probably still wont know it all the way. haha,  and you will probably be just as confused, but you are closer to knowing it. And on the bright side you just know more!
LOL 4.1 is on absolute and local minimum and maximums
Oh ya, thats right, that one was easy especially the first problems. as long as you had the same problems that I did.
I am sure they are similar
If so you just look at the graph and estimate about where the minimum and maximum are. That was a breeze, although when you had to take the derivative of it, it was a little more challenging, but definetely feasible. I think I understand it pretty well The only thing that I need to review more and more right now are some trig stuff and chain rule and I think Im feeling completely comfortable with calculus. Almost too comfortable After the class today, I just feel like he is going to take care of us. It was a great example of D&C 121 of leadership He knew something was wrong and is trying everything he can to fix it! I think that separates a good teacher from a bad teacher.
Yeah, that is one thing that I love about BYU Some professor really get it others are in their elite bubble but most are great
ya, thats true, I have had my experience with both. Not a ton, but enough, that I can say I have. Have I told you about my Plant Biology teacher? He was insane! kind of He did a weekly quiz which was normal right? No, it wasnt normal because the questions were impossible. He made up his questions based on content he delivered and not devised his teaching on things he wanted us to learn
that is crazy
Its kind of confusing what im trying to say, but essentially there are ways to teach, and a common one that is really effective is to teach according to knowledge that you
I think regular quizzes is a good thing
want them to gain, and he completely did it all backwards because the previous year he read a book that says to switch it all up
But I would mainly use them to have people engage in the learning process
exactly! These quizes included questions that are actually false. I know that sounds prideful of me to say that I know more than the teacher Thats not what im trying to say, its just that the teacher thought he was right when he wasnt for instance a question that we were given on our first quiz: what is science? That seems simple enough, nope, apparently science is and I quote, because I still remember it "Continually falsifying ideas of other people" What the ..... is he talking about I literally was using process of elimination and that was the first one I crossed out. I knew that was wrong. It literally sounds like a kindergartener wrote it. The ironic thing about this with me, I think I just misspelled kindergartner. Haha
Kindergarten? Overall, that is an odd defintion
On the second one I used spell check to fix it
It is very specific...
The first one is spelled wrong thought though Ya, but the weird thing is there was an answer on the lines of "the study of the world around us" or something like that. I think I ended up choosing that one. On the first quiz I got a zero out of ten. It was rediculous. I never got above a ninety percent and all my other classes I aced except for a drawing class, because well, I suck at drawing. Haha Anyway... Long story short, Im glad I have a great calc teacher. She does really well Oops, its not a she its a he haha What classes do you have tomorrow? other than CS 224
Calc Lab that is it Tomorrow is a work horse day for me
oh, thats the same with me other than that other stupid online class that I watch on my ipad during cs224. The reason I ask, is I hope Im not distracting you too much, I just know that so far this has been very effective and I was just wondering if I needed you again tomorrow if you could hook me up with another chat just in this time Ive narrowed the gap by quite a bit. I think I might stay up all night and try to finish him off! haha I will say though, I really like this whole chat thing. Honestly because im thinking less and typing more, the typing has become therapeutical. Hopefully its not too annoying haah dang! I just mispelled my laugh haha
Not a problem Sorry that I am slow though I am attempting to do some complex math at the same time =P The chat is fun This is how I was raised AIM and ICQ
Cool, its all good. I think it would be more of a conversation if you did, but the whole venting style that is coming off has been pretty therapeutic, I feel so more relaxed
those are legends today
and ready to take on the world Ill be honest I have no clue what AIM and ICQ are... But Ill google them real quick Wait... is AIM the AOL Chat?
AIM is AOL Chat AOL Instant Messenger
Oh, that makes sense
ICQ was a little different
ICQ seems pretty legit even today
Do people still use that?!?
I just looked it up and it seems like they have somehow kept it updated
That is funny
I dont ever use it
but I would go home and chat with people from my school
I had no clue what it is and really I still dont
AIM allowed you to find people in your area
but they seem to have kept it updated and there is a version for your mobile phones!
So you would chat with random people in your school without knowing who each other was
So high tech!
Interesting
Oh, so this is exactly what that is, only we know each other Thats ok though, they actually encouraged discussions between friends on it, so I dont feel bad at all Especially seems how Im not just typing random garbage. There is thought to what Im typing just not a ton of thought into how to get it into words So sometimes it comes out weird. But then I try to quickly fix it Any way... How much more calc do you have left?
two more equations I doing the written one right now I always have fun with my full explanations
Oh, thats good! Thats actually the part that I hate. I don't know if I told you this before, but while in High School, I was probably one of the top in the school for math. Kinda weird now that I am struggling so hard with it I left on my mission and I can barely remember my times tables I did really well in calculus. I think in all three trimesters in school I had above a hundred percent, then I went on my mission and cant remember anything I dont know why though. The other thing that doesnt help, is the fact that I studied a lot of art in the winter and woke up a part of my brain that was almost defunctional. And in the process shut down the other side
LOL I love math
haha
It is apart of my blood
I still love it, its just now become hard, because I cant remember anything
sure, I have forgotten some of the finer points but most of it sings to me
I felt confident going into calculus that it was going to be a breeze. And somethings are, but not everything The only thing I can remember without help is my teachers name. Mrs. Hawks. I actually dont know why I remember her name she was like fifty dont get any creepy ideas on me having a crush or anything Thats just the only thing that I can remember. Although when people start talking about certain parts of calculus I can remember pieces of that come back to me. Particularly the stuff that I struggled with. Thinking back, I really wish that I struggled more, so that I could remember more and more than I do I honestly just cant remember anything
I just finished my homework I can't remember my Calc teachers I remember there were two of them They did not like me I was new to the school And coming from Kentucky, I did not learn any trig It was bad But now that I have taken a test with trig, I feel like a master of the universe =P
Thats, ok, that you dont remember your teachers from high school. Honestly its a little creepy that I do. Haha Oh, so to them, you were just a troubled student from kentucky. Haha Trig is for some reason just a confusing monster. My TA explained it pretty accurately. Most of the public school teachers skip over the whole trig section in High School pretty quick They may or may not even know it themselves, but they seem to do a poor job teaching how it works. I kind of agree with him to a certain extent too. Mainly because I dont think I have ever put together the fact that cosine is the distance of the base of triangle one the unit circle. We were just told to memorize it Just here at BYU I put the relationship between the triangle and circle together. I just never really saw it as that. But it honestly makes so much more sense in how we get the numbers that we do in the unit circle
yeah, trig is just taking an angle and converting it to a ratio in a right triangle alright, I think I am going to close up and head home for some Z's You have a good one man
sorry, this is a little besides the point, but I feel like this chat could be so much more fun if you could include others into the chat and make it 3 or 4 way.
that would be cool
Although that might defeat the purpose of this entire project of having it be between two people
yeah, it might be specific interactions
Ok, sounds good. have a great night!
throw in another factor and it can get crazy you have a good one