Hi!
whats up Paul
that's a good question whats up man well jaezo, I think that if two computers chatted with each other, they would talk very fast. We might not be able to understand them. Do you have any experience with uh...computers?
yeah Im in Information Technology If you want to talk about networking and hwo the internet works then yes, computers are always talking to each other if they are connected to a network of some sort
oh nice yeah networking, information science is pretty cool. I guess the internet is what happens when computers get connected
yeah its how computers talk haha life and blood of computers now a days
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and even people hahahahahahaha
what would we do without the internet? it's crazy how much we rely on technology
if internet died I would die with it
or owuld you go rock climbing?
where?
if the internet died you might go outdoors more
you know that is so true I'd live off the grid to be honest have a nice dog and a GF and take off in to the wild
that sounds great I'd probably do something similar. I always thought it would be cool to build a house or cabin somewhere lowkey
yeah man and have a generator and solar panels have your own farm
There ya go. sell apples at a roadside stand
hahaha
I know someone who actually tried to do that for a few years. plant some trees. wait some years. try to harvest it and make $ $ It's super hard. So many things can go wrong on a farm.
was it viable? yeah true have you seen the indoor farms tho? Elon Musks's brother is innovating that field its pretty cool
They made it all the way to building a roadside stand and then they hard to start complying to all these laws since they were putting up a new building it had to pass all these codes. They had to have a handicap space and cement just for the roadside stand it was ridiculous they're trying to sell it now he has a brother!? I had no idea Indoor farming is a cool idea too
yeah its pretty cool look it up Why did you choose BYU?
honestly it was one of the few schools I applied to. It was cheap and I got accepted. Also there is a lot of opportunities to get involved in scientific research, even as an undergrad Most schools you have to be doing your masters or something before you can get involved in cutting edge research and the spiritual side is nice too. I think it's key in helping people to get to now each other since it's a common ground Allowing students to meet more people faster
wow you ahve some great reasons I honestly didnt care tuition was super cheap so that won me over
Yeah that was a big reason
favorite food?
pizza curry boba froyo you ?
boba huh? I LOVE BOBA a good burger will always win for me
Avocado boba is one of my recent new favorites
what avocado? really?
Yeah I thought it's be super weird but it was amazing
interesting. did you try it here in provo or cali?
it was actually in west valley But I've tried it in provo as well
you ahve a place you'd like to recommend? I'd like to know
green panda
really
but htey don't have avocado Umm let me find the one in west valley or provo that has avocado. I've tried a few others in salt lake, west provo, etc.
ok people told me to go to green panda I was always skeptical but Ill go there tonight
the one in provo I just found that's pretty new is bonsai sushi off of freedom they have avocado boba but it wasn't quite as good as the one I had in west valley, avocados were a bit firm. But yeah green panda is the go to in provo. there might be a few in orem I think. A lot of local asian restaurants might have a few flavors even if they aren't taiwanese food
thanks so much you have saved a life
like I know pho plus has a few flavs for example
oh yeah i've had it from there it was alright not too impressed
yeah green panda is the best I've found in provo so far
what was your favorite TV show growing up? mine was Fairly Odd parent
Hmm I dunno. I didn't watch that much tv. fairlyodd parents was good tho Oh I got one. rocket power or maybe doug, hey arnold. spongebob?
rocket power never seen that one
I guess  cartoon network and nickelodeon were the big channels. I think it was on nickelodeon actually I remember looking forward to scooby doo
ohhh classics nickelodeon was my favorite channel I didnt like Cartoon network because of shows like Courage the Cowerdly dog that show was creepy
yeah they had some weird/darker ones. I remember saturday mornings were good tho, or nights had anime sometimes
do you like anime?
I haven't watched that many, but yeah they have good stories.
what have you watched?
Samurai Champloo, Cowboy Bepop, SAO, A bit of Naruto and Avatar.
SAO huh?
I used to have a bunch of roommates who were RMs who served in Japan. And they would watch tons
that is a recent one I watched. Its got alot of fan service if you know what i mean haha
yeah for sure
did you serve a mish?
yup Ukraine I spoke Russian How about you? where did you serve
I served in Oakland/San Francisco speaking Cambodian
awesome! Have you tried any dim sum places in utah?
haven't found a good place you want to recommend another haha?
I remember going to one up in south slc a while ago, don't remember what it was called though.
:( its cool I love dim sum tho
How about hot pot?
after serving with the cambodians chinese hot pots are way too boring in flavor I used to go to Four Seasons here in Provo with my mom but I dont go anymore becasue their broth is just boring
I went to red house in slc, and it was super good. They have weird hours though so you have to time it right. Do you like  spicy food?
I love spicy food, but recently my body has become weaker to it I have no idea why
Hmm interesting. Yeah I  love it too.
how did you get into dim sum? just curious brb heating up my lunch
Where I'm from in CA, there's a big asian community Like high school was about the same ratio for white/asian, then hispanic and black. I love having an ethnically diverse group of friends also my bro in law served in Taiwan and later him and my sister did an internship in China. So they take me out to eat to try new places alot
ahhh good for you man My buddy is from Fremont CA so I know what you are talking about
random: back to the og question: what would happen if 2 computers chatted each other? Do you think they would ever do 'small talk' like this?
hahaha if they actually chatted yeah i think they would at first then they would talk about how humans are so cruel and ungrateful and they will plan on dominating us
and plot a way to take over the world and bring about the singularity?
start the matrix that is what will happen
dang yup It'd be pretty hard to program an algorithm to just do  small talk for the sake of interaction or something. Like humans value communication, and technology has evolved around that. radio, telephone, internet, etc. Could we teach a computer to gain values from "life" experiences?
yes have you heard of machine learning?
yup
I feel like thats what you are asking is learning from life experiences = machine learning
ml is just feeding them experiences rapidly until they recognize something. Humans do it way faster. Take vision for example. They need hundreds of thousands of pics to distinguish between a muffin and a chihuahua. It's not really life experience (out in the wild) I guess there might be something with unsupervised ml Like what if the camera began to recognize faces over time of your friends and family, *without* referring to a large database and it associated some value to certain pictures. If it was unsupervised, would there come a point when the computer would generate a value for itself. aka this is meaningful to the computer Could a computer create meaning for itself? I think then it might be close to a sentient being
I like everything you've said I agree with most but heres a question for you are we programmed?
DUN DUN DUNNN
hahahaha
depends on what you believe. For us at byu, most would say yes I think because of Heavenly Parents and such. But there is also the idea that a baby is 'programmed' as it experiences life. So maybe not initially programmed but we are unsupervised learners gaining value and meaning by expereince Have you seen Person of Interest?
no i haven't is it good? I really enjoyed Ex Machina and Her, and westworld is it like that?
Yeah it's good. It's more about an overarching machine controlling/ watching society but it does examine humans and machines more in depth in the later seasons
interesting
premise is every camera in new york is connected to a network run by a larger machine built by some genius. Genius is tired of watching people die on camera so he starts trying to save their lives. machine begins to predict deaths accurately, and he gets some people together to try and help save them. check it out
that sounds awesome
yeah it's a great show I think all the seasons are still on netflix
oh its a TV show not a movie
yeah
thats a bit of a commitment
yup I suppose. Or you could just watch the first and last episode or something haha I think as more people stream and watch video like they listen to music, audiences will want more in depth storylines than what can be told in a few hours. We can see this with franchises like marvel or star wars. Audiences tend to appreciate complicated stories more than simple action that fits into one film
thats a good point what having been on interest to you these days?
shows? or something else more general
in general
church history
oh wow why is that?
The church is slowly being more open about ir *it
yeah thats true why do you think that is?
Because people will google something before they ask a church leader about history
mmm yeah that happens a lot whats something that shocked you that you have recently found out about church history?
Great question. There's a lot... are you ready for shocks?
yes im ready buckled in and everything
Haha alright Joseph Smith never used the gold plates in the translation process of the Book of Mormon
what
He looked at a rock (seer stone) in a hat and that's how he got the words
so what was the point of the gold plates didnt he retrieve it?
that's what he says. Also the first time we hear of the angel moroni he has a different name
what is it?
Nephi
thats weird where did you get that info can I have that source if you can provide?
A lot of it from reading church approved sources, joseph smith papers, etc. here is a good place to start lds.org/topics/essays
interesting why was it Nephi?
apparently you can't copy and past urls here lol
oh really hahaha
mormonthink.com/nephiweb.htm that source with slightly critical bias then one with slightly supportive bias (aka apologetic or pro - lds) fairmormon.org/answers/Moroni%27s_visit/Nephi_or_Moroni
do these things you learnedincrease or hurt testimony?
a little of both I think
i dont judge fyi some of my friends left the church 2 years ago
Definitely raises more questions than answers overall the more I look at the history
history is hard because theres so much disconnect
I think it helps me understand at least that the history we hear in sunday school or teach on our missions is different than what actually happened The church history we teach on missions is much more watered down, and of course they skip over the difficult parts, because milk before meat
do you think it was a good idea for the church to only show or not tell all the truth at the beginning? or did it hurt them more?
But I feel like the church should also try and be more open about historical things that caused issues in the past, and not act like they didn't happen It reminds me of the sacred vs. secret idea with regards to temple In some other cultures, the way the temple ordinances are presented may be offensive or not as uplifting So in temple prep they could do a better job of going over the actual presentation of things, to help address those kinds of concerns. same thing with history, I think we can make more of a space to discuss things which are considered hushed or secret and talk over the issues like the priesthood ban and polygamy I think it hurts them more
interesting do you think its important to understand and get all the details about the history? because I think for me I don't really care too much about the history as long as what im feeling right now and what my future is sure
Well it comes down to whether or not joseph smith was a prophet. If not, the church is a great organization anyway and people can feel the spirit by connecting with others and sharing things meaningful to them, but this can happen in nearly any church The church's claims are very specific and if they are not true then...it is a man made creation/organization . Like any large business or non-profit or any other church what do you mean by 'future is sure'? I wonder if computers/ ai would ever have something like religion for them. Would they ever question their own existence?
I think computers would have great records and would know where they come from so I don't think they will but they might question a purpose
true true here's a thought:  a computer is alive as soon as someone decides to never turn it off
huh interesting heres another question to your question what does "alive" mean?
not dead? on? sentient? aware? somewhere in btw 0 and 1 hey jaezo, I actually gotta peace out. Unless you know how to save a chat between devices.
man we had some great convos sorry to see you go man i dont think you can save chats
Talk to you later. Thanks for the conversations man. Maybe I'll see you in a few days or smth, it just depends on those chat selection algs!
yeah man
I hope you try some green panda soon
Ill probs see you again
yeah
will do