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Error in French Confirmed Cases #2203

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GerardoRTobar opened this issue Apr 15, 2020 · 20 comments
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Error in French Confirmed Cases #2203

GerardoRTobar opened this issue Apr 15, 2020 · 20 comments

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@GerardoRTobar
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@GerardoRTobar GerardoRTobar commented Apr 15, 2020

Has anyone noticed the error in France (the one with no Province/State entry), which for 13/4/2020 had 136,779 and for 14/4/2020 has 130,253.

This happens in the time_series_covid19_confirmed_global.csv file.

@GerardoRTobar
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@GerardoRTobar GerardoRTobar commented Apr 15, 2020

I hope this gets fixed soon. I mean, as it is an acumulative variable, every day it should present at least equal or higher value, but it should never show less than the prior day.

@MartinFavier
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@MartinFavier MartinFavier commented Apr 15, 2020

I agree with you, I have 6514 confirmed cases less than the prior day.
Does anyone know why ?

@GerardoRTobar
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@GerardoRTobar GerardoRTobar commented Apr 15, 2020

It must be typing error. I hope they get this fixed. They made some commits fixing some stuff, but I think they either forgot about this or didn't spot the issue.

@MartinFavier
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@MartinFavier MartinFavier commented Apr 15, 2020

OK, let's keep up to date if we find a data correction

@alfkoehn
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@alfkoehn alfkoehn commented Apr 15, 2020

Correct numbers are given here: #2202 (it's 103573 confirmed cases - not counting the potential cases)

@advaithasabnis
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@advaithasabnis advaithasabnis commented Apr 15, 2020

#2188
Should probably be +6514 or +6524.

@alfkoehn I think France mentions cases from nursing homes separately so it's 103k + about 40k from there [Source]? Not sure but almost everywhere (JHU, worldometer, etc.) I see the sum of these two numbers.

@alfkoehn
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@alfkoehn alfkoehn commented Apr 15, 2020

@alfkoehn Not sure but almost everywhere (JHU, worldometer, etc.) I see the sum of these two numbers.

True, but data maintainer of this website have themselves stated "After careful consideration and extensive research, we cannot confirm beyond a reasonable doubt that these two categories are mutually exclusive." [1]

This means the numbers should still be treated separately in my understanding - and is also the conclusion of this database's maintainer. Anyway, I did not wanted to start this discussion here again, I just thought it would be helpful to give the (some?) "correct" number instead of just saying something is wrong.

[1] #2094

@yetzt
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@yetzt yetzt commented Apr 15, 2020

Thats what happens when you count speculative data as confirmed.

@ouinouin
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@ouinouin ouinouin commented Apr 15, 2020

the count in france based on this dataset leads me to calculate through grafana a 1500 death per day...
are the data still unconsolidated (some countries are showing cumulative data and some are showing daily data on the datasets .

@WildH0g
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@WildH0g WildH0g commented Apr 15, 2020

Please, please, please fix France 🙏

@macialek
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@macialek macialek commented Apr 15, 2020

Here is another source with proper France data: https://data.europa.eu/euodp/en/data/dataset/covid-19-coronavirus-data

@GerardoRTobar
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@GerardoRTobar GerardoRTobar commented Apr 15, 2020

So what is the conclusion? Is the data wrong or not? As I understood, it is due to that French Government decided to count supicious cases as confirmed and then they turned out negative, isn't it?

Is the data manager going to fix it or not? @CSSEGISandData

@judepayne
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@judepayne judepayne commented Apr 15, 2020

Does anyone have the correct numbers to hand for France for the 13th and 14th? I can put a patch into my copy of the jhu data. thank you

@yetzt
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@yetzt yetzt commented Apr 15, 2020

@judepayne https://dashboard.covid19.data.gouv.fr/ — you can go to previous dates with the arrows top left.

@ivandebono
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@ivandebono ivandebono commented Apr 15, 2020

Can anyone point me to a link for the data used here: https://dashboard.covid19.data.gouv.fr ?
Is there a csv available somewhere?

@boogheta
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@boogheta boogheta commented Apr 15, 2020

@ivandebono The dashboard uses the data from the following repository which agregates various official french sources: https://github.com/opencovid19-fr/data
The CSV file is there: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/opencovid19-fr/data/master/dist/chiffres-cles.csv
You'll see there are plenty different formats and granularity.
I personally do the following filterings to account this data in my comparison dashboard: http://boogheta.github.io/coronavirus-countries/#country=France

@ivandebono
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@ivandebono ivandebono commented Apr 15, 2020

@boogheta Super. Thank you so much.

@GerardoRTobar
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@GerardoRTobar GerardoRTobar commented Apr 16, 2020

Is something going to be done about this???????????????????????

@CSSEGISandData At least can you reply back saying that we will be ignored or that we will be listened to

@judepayne
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@judepayne judepayne commented Apr 16, 2020

@yetzt thankyou. So, when I reconcile back to that site, the numbers stretching back quite a while are substantially different to jhu...
@boogheta

jhu date jhu gouv.fr
15-Apr 134,582 106,206
14-Apr 131,361 103,573
13-Apr 137,875 98,076
12-Apr 133,670 95,403
11-Apr 130,727 93,790
10-Apr 125,931 90,767
9-Apr 118,781 86,334
8-Apr 113,959 82,048
7-Apr 110,065 78,176
6-Apr 98,963 74,390
5-Apr 93,773 70,478
4-Apr 90,848 68,605
3-Apr 65,202 64,338
2-Apr 59,929 59,105

There was a big jump in the jhu cases number for France on the 4th April. At the time, I researched that spike and found somewhere (can't remember the source) that France had decided to include suspicious but unconfirmed deaths mainly from care homes.

Which is the correct (official) source? https://dashboard.covid19.data.gouv.fr/ pointed to by @yetzt or https://github.com/opencovid19-fr/data pointed to by @boogheta and used by jhu?

@boogheta
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@boogheta boogheta commented Apr 16, 2020

@judepayne: as I was saying, the data repo I pointed IS the data source used by the official(ized) dashboard (it used to be a private initiative from people working for the government, which was then officially endorsed). You can confirm it by checking the source code here: https://github.com/etalab/covid19-dashboard/blob/master/prepare-data.js#L9

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