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[RFC] New human factions #27479

mlangsdorf opened this Issue Jan 7, 2019 · 14 comments


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mlangsdorf commented Jan 7, 2019

More human factions needed

Currently, the game has 6 NPC factions, but there's really only 3: Your Followers, the Wasteland Scavengers, the Old Guard/Free Merchants/Tacoma Commune, and the Hell's Raiders. The Hell's Raiders are always hostile (currently) and Your Followers are basically an extension of the player. So it's really just the Free Merchants as a mostly friendly group, the Wasteland Scavengers as an unorganized group, and the Hell's Raiders as an enemy

There should be more non-hostile human factions who are not necessarily friendly with each other. That would add scope for more missions, including diplomacy or war between factions.

This topic is intended to brainstorm some new factions and possibly start work on them.

Obvious factions

I'm either borrowing other people's ideas or using some very obvious concepts. This list should be expanded.


Description: "Some people knew the End was coming and prepared. Now they intend to keep what is theirs."
Size: Small (half the size of the Free Merchants?)
Attitudes: Extremely hostile to the Old Guard (who they see as having caused the Cataclysm) and the Robofac (who they just don't trust). Generally suspicious of the Free Merchants for being Old Guard allies. Generally not hostile to other factions, and trying to be decent people in a tough situation, but they're not about to provide charity for people too foolish to prepare.
Bases: A farm. Seeking to expand to other farms, missile silos, or military bunkers.
Trade: Barters copious ammo supplies for diesel, alcohol, etc. Doesn't have currency but will use promissory notes for specific things to round out a barter deal.
Missions: Go find that one thing they forget to prepare, get them luxury goods that they want but thought they could do without, weaken the Old Guard, deal with hostiles.


Description: "The scientists of a working lab."
Notes: The lab is barely functioning, but the Melchior AI has taken control of the remaining staff and is now running the place.
Size: Small (half the size of the Free Merchants?)
Attitudes: Hostile to the Old Guard (Melchior doesn't want to be controlled).
Bases: A small, partially working lab.
Trade: Uses precious metal coins for currency. Sells ultra-tech wonder products. Buys food, basic goods, plutonium cells, information.
Missions: Acquire science specimens, provide replacement science equipment, set up radio repeaters near other labs, hook other Melchior networks into this lab's network, acquire gold and silver for its currency.

Zombie Cult

Description: "Madmen who think they can make friends with the zombies."
Size: Small
Attitudes: Mildly hostile to everyone, but also desperate. Making friends with zombies is hard, and they need help surviving until they make contact with the zombie brain.
Bases: Desolate buildings.
Trade: Barter random scavenged good for food, clean water, etc.
Missions: Sabotage other factions, learn more about the zombies, attempt diplomatic relations with the Nether things.

Marloss Evangelists

Description: "Mutants have eaten of the Marloss berry and now preach the only way humanity can survive."
Size: Medium
Attitudes: They would like to have good relations with all factions, but people keep setting them on fire.
Bases: Fungal areas.
Trade: Barter random goods for random goods. They will round out trade with promises of future marloss berries.
Missions: Spread the fungus, convert other factions, destroy nether creatures and triffids, intercept people trying to destroy the fungus.

Fence Men

Description: "Former convicts who have taken over the prison and now seek to trade to improve their goods."
Notes: Mildly unsavory, but more "mean people in a bad situation" than "outright evil." Well, maybe evil depending on how you consider slavery, but they're not going to shoot you for breathing.
Size: About the same as the Free Merchants
Attitudes: Hostile to the Old Guard, but otherwise neutral or friendly. Trades with the Hell's Raiders. Sometimes donates to the God's Chosen.
Bases: Most of a prison - parts of it are still blocked off with zombies inside.
Trade: Uses bullets for currency. Sells wrecked robot bits, raw material from the prison, or slaves for food, water, medical supplies, etc.
Missions: Acquire farming supplies. Conduct diplomacy with other factions. Sabotage Old Guard. Handle trade with the Neo Natives because the Fence Men don't want to end up in anyone's cooking pot.


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SeelenJaegerTee commented Jan 7, 2019

Bravo Deserters

Soldiers who defected when shit hit the fan.

  • Relations: They wish the Old Guard would let them alone, but the Old Guard wants them on trial since they are deserters. Neutral to other factions.
  • Size: one squad
  • Attitude: Decent folks who just wanted to survive (or got disconnected from their unit) and are now helping other survivors - which makes it especially awkward when the Old Guard wants the player to execute the deserters but they are actually the knights in shining armour who protect the weak. They shoot cannibals and Hell's Raiders on sight.
  • Base: campsite or cabin
  • Trade: trades combat training for ammunition, no currency as such.
  • Missions: Diplomatic relations with other factions, find lost squad members/families, arrange an amnesty from the Old Guard.

Gods Chosen

A religious end of the world sect - but this time a good one.

  • Attitude: harmless pacifists, will never attack living humans. Dislikes the Free Merchants for their predatory pricing. Has fairly good relations with the Fence Men.
  • Size: A hand full of families.
  • Base: A cathedral.
  • Trade: offer small crafts, clothing, wood, food, discount bandages. No real currency or trade - just donations.
  • Missions: protect us from X, retrieve religious artifact, retrieve bible, convince the Free Merchants to see the light.

The great library

(obviously this is one of the great wonder's of the post-apocalyptic)
Some surviving scientist(s) and librarian(s) have set themselves the task of preserving humanities knowledge.

  • Base: fortified library
  • Attitude: neutral to most factions, with a complicated relationship with the Robofac. The leadership of the Great Library and the Campus have a petty feud with each other, but the memberships are split between people who take sides in the feud and people who generally get along with friends and colleagues from their pre-Cataclysm lives.
  • Size: should be a rather small faction
  • Trade: are looking for food, books and electronic components will offer training and stuff they can build from said components
  • Missions: retrieve books, retrieve artifact for study, scavenge technological equipment

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peperov commented Jan 7, 2019

Neo Natives

  • Description: "A society of primitive and savage individuals who form a loose tribe, striving to survive by violence and individual strength."
  • Notes: Aggressive cannibals hunting for food and 'magical supplies' (mid-tech items that cannot be produced by neolithic technologies such as disinfectant, saltcheese, bullets and playboy magazines). Friendly toward other cannibals, neutral towards strong individuals, but hostile towards physically weak opponents, seeking to hunt them down using bows, slings and heavy sticks. Possibly apply poisons to their arrows in dangerous situations.
  • Size: Small, hidden in deep swamp lands(far from cities).
  • Attitudes: Hostile towards almost everyone but the Hell's Raiders, to whom they sell items they took off survivors but have no use for - in exchange for slaves and 'magical items'. They have limited trade with the Fence Men but the Fence Men would prefer to work through intermediaries. Can befriend the player if he is physically intimidating.
  • Bases: Small settlements of a few hutts at rivers in the swamp, possibly a totem that fancies an artifact or some other relic of power. These settlements could be connected by river or trail.
  • Trade: Offer artifacts and mid-high tech gear in exchange for low-mid tier gear (at high cost for the player). The player can sell followers in exchange for goods.
  • Missions: Bring human flesh, Deliver coordinates(or a map) of Survivalists' settlements, Find and deliver an artifact

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Epictyphlosion commented Jan 7, 2019

The Strongarm Survialists

A group of somewhat crazy gun-nuts

  • Attitude: Anyone who has harmed the faction or a faction member is considered an enemy, and faction members are required to shoot enemies on sight. Enemies of the faction are given the option to clear their name, but only if they pay a hefty fee. Outsiders are allowed to visit their bases and purchase goods, but they cannot stay there, and they are constantly watched by faction members to ensure they are abiding by their rules. People that have friendly relations with a Strongarm member are trusted, and allowed to stay at their bases. They are very territorial over their faction's belongings, and charge higher than normal prices for goods.
  • Base locations: Shooting ranges, fortified homes, gun stores (rarely)
  • Size: Medium-small
  • Trade: Lots of guns, ammunition, armor, and gun mods, as well as some food, water, medicine, bandages, and sometimes things like tools and materials. They can trade with cash or items. Most items, especially firearms and ammunition, cost higher than normal if your reputation isn't high enough with the faction.
  • Missions: Killing enemies of the faction, Rescuing captured faction members, Looting gun stores or armories (sometimes from rival factions), Repairing X's firearm(s), Finding X a new firearm

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SeelenJaegerTee commented Jan 7, 2019

AMSL (Adolescent mutated shinobi lizards)
Four Lizard mutants living in the sewers together with their rat-mutant master.

  • attitude: friendly towards photojournalist profession
  • base: under a sewer cover
  • faction size: 5
  • Trade: Fast Food items for martial arts training

And now to the serious version:
Brotherhood of the Tentacle
A band of mutants that have made bad experiences with non-muties after the end of the world.

  • attitude: unfriendly or even hostile to everybody not visibly mutated, friendly to everyone with visible mutations
  • base: a cave
  • faction size: probably small
  • Trade: want mutagen AND/OR purifier serum
  • Missions: would be awesome if there were two mutually exclusive paths a revenge path where the player sabotages other factions for them and a diplomatic path where the player negotiates friendly relations between the other "good/neutral" human factions

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kevingranade commented Jan 8, 2019

You might be using it as a catchall, but instead of zombie cult it should be mycus cult, since mycus actively wants to recruit. I think the utterly deranged and fruitless zombie cult would work too, but it seems like a more minor faction.


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mlangsdorf commented Jan 8, 2019

There are probably multiple tiny zombie cults, made up of people who have lost their minds, that pop up and die within a few months. While the Marloss Evangelists are slowly growing in strength.

Faction (Abbreviation) Size Membership
Fort Evac (FE) Micro 3-5 people depending on how you count
Bravo Deserters (BD) Micro 5-7
Zombie Cult Cell (ZCC) Micro 2-5
Brotherhood of the Tentacle (BOTT) Tiny 12-15
Neo Natives (NN) Tiny 14-18
The Great Library (TGL) Tiny 15-20
God's Chosen (GC) Small 4-5 families of 2-6 people.
Zombie Cult (ZC) Small 4-6 Cells
Robofac (RF) Small 25-35 people + Melchior
Farm Survivalists (FC) Small 4-5 families of 3-6 people
Strongarm Survivalists (SA) Small 4-5 families of 3-6 people
Free Merchants + Tacoma Commune (FrM, TC/RR) Medium 60-80 people (supposedly)
The Campus Medium 60-80 people
Fence Men (FeM) Medium 50-70 ex-convicts
Marloss Evangelists (ME) Medium 50-60 mutants
Old Guard (OG) Large Hundreds off-screen, and 2-20 on screen
Hell's Raiders (HR) Large Hundreds

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Epictyphlosion commented Jan 8, 2019

Strongarm Survivalists (SA) Small 4-5 families of 3-6 people

That's a much better name compared to what I wrote, lol


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I-am-Erk commented Jan 9, 2019

The Campus

Medium sized faction formed by a group of people who were evacuated to a college campus, managed to survive there, and have formed a community.

Makeup: lots of young adults and university professors as well as members of the nearby community. About 60-80 people.

Disposition: begins slightly idealistic and anti-old-guard. At some point they are taken advantage of by the free merchants and become a bit more jaded. They aren't foolish though; they have strong defenses and are probably one of the more powerful factions in the region.

Qualities: the campus is quite large and well fortified. They have a few raiding groups that have gathered supplies and secured the nearby area. They begin somewhat welcoming to newcomers, but become more xenophobic (like everyone) over a fairly short time. After a period of time they become quite reluctant to trade.

General notes: the people of the Campus were somewhat less hard hit by the cataclysm, owing largely to their younger age meaning fewer zombies intially, and them having more capable combatants. This doesn't mean they don't fear zombies, but they're less risk averse than most other factions. On the other hand, the campus provides most amenities they need to survive, with fabrication and science facilities as well as comfortable living dorms and underground tunnels allowing movement between buildings without going outside. It's pretty ideal. While the average campus-dweller isn't keen on going to the outskirts of town to find food, they don't have too much trouble putting together raiding parties large enough to actually make some headway.

Grey areas: early on the campus becomes quite unwilling to work with other factions. The old guard got us into this, the free merchants only care about themselves, and the Raiders are the Raiders. This will translate into hostility and distrust to the player as well, unless the player starts the game as a member as well. Because they feel like they have this well in hand (and they kinda do), it should be very difficult to earn their respect

As one might expect from a commune with an average age of 27, the Campus is extremely stubborn and self-assured. Left to their own devices, they will probably do well for a few years before imploding.


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mlangsdorf commented Jan 9, 2019

We still need a faction of sewer dwellers. Plenty of players do this, so that means other people should do it.

Possibly have some faction living near a lava crack though they tend to be in unpleasant locations so I don't know how viable that is.

I have an idea for expanding the Hell's Raiders
"description": "The largest gang of hooligans and bandits that preys upon other survivors. Even if you have no gear, there is always a need for slaves and fresh meat."
Size: Large, though broken up into multiple, sometimes competing, sub factions.
Attitudes: Loosely allied to the Fence Men, much the same way as the Old Guard is to the Free Merchants. Non-hostile to the BOTT and the Neo-Natives. Explicitly against the Old Guard and happy to steal from the Free Merchants, Tacoma Commune, Campus, or most other factions.
Bases: Military outposts, apartment complexes, bandit forts.
Trade: Sells slaves on a barter basis. Has some kind of internal currency that they'll trade to the Fence Men or Neo Natives, but other people get promissory notes that won't usually be honored.
Missions: sabotage other factions, ....
Notes: The leadership of the Hell's Raiders is made heavily mutated and/or bionically enhanced psychopaths who explicitly consider themselves post- or trans-human and feel the Cataclysm has given them a chance to embrace their full Nietzschean Ubermensch Will to Power. Some of them are cannibals or sapiovores, but most of those are fairly discrete about it. They view the rest of the gangs as more or less disposable meat shields.
Individual raiders range from similar psychopaths to desperate people who have joined up with a powerful group for protection in desperate times. Most accept that it is a zombie-eats-man world out there and its' better to have the protection of other Raiders than go at it alone, but many of them still cringe at some of their own behavior.
It should be possible for players to join the Hell's Raiders, though how I'm not sure.


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I-am-Erk commented Jan 10, 2019

I would recommend playing up the transhuman element of the hell's raiders and reducing the psychopath aspect. It'd be pretty difficult to get and stabilize a group of actual psychopaths like that, but it would be comparatively easy to have a few really nasty souls at the head of a raider group that was constantly fed stuff about how they're the new wave of humanity and the only ones strong enough to survive in the new world.


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peperov commented Jan 10, 2019

The Hell's Raiders shoot on sight, but one possibility to get in contact with them could be via two-way radio. Let's say the player picks up some conversation oder maybe a call for help. Upon investigating he finds a group of raiders trapped and out of ammunition, giving the player an opportunity to pick a side. As far as I know there are already some missions in the refugee center that involve killing Hell's Raiders, so there could be a possible plot turn in which the player instead allies the HR and betrays the refugee people.
A great narrative would be to have the HRs save the player from captivity of some sort (save him but enslave him) and have the player work himself up the psycho-hierarchy from being slave of a member to finally being assistant of a leader.
I'm not entirely sure if this can at all be done within the game, but it's some food for thought. Maybe we can come up with a more simple solution.


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Quintovir commented Jan 13, 2019

The Radiant Ones
Description: A group of mutated people who are both radiogenic and radioactive.
Size: ?
Attitudes: The Radiants are happy to interact with anything that will openly accept their radioactivity, but anyone who strongly shields themselves from radioactivity or are immune to it are not welcome. Anyone who actively tries to denuclearize the Radiant agenda are to be killed on sight.
Bases: Radioactive places (random places and nuclear craters) or places with radioactive materials (nuclear silos and spent nuclear storage warehouses).
Trade: They always have an ongoing nuclear PPE (hazmat suit, anbc suit, etc) and Prussian blue/Potassium iodide buyback program (burned/destroyed immediatly). They sell plutonium and anything that runs on plutonium. They buy all the food and drink you have for sale, since their constant nausea causes them to vomit regularly.
Missions: Their mission is to make the world a radioactive place by launching nukes and sending their members to irradiate other places/people. Launch nukes or detonate nuclear bombs on designated targets. Escort Radiants on their missionary work.

"promissory notes" cash cards?
"Trade:" I would add tools, weapons, guns, and standard drugs as merchendise. Preppers tend to have a lot of backups.

Zombie Cult
"Trade:" they might want to buy armor and drugs (disinfectant, antibiotics, bandages, etc) to make their interactions with zombies safer and longer.

Fence Men
"Trade: Sells... slaves for food" once you buy these slaves will they turn into standard NPC followers?


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mlangsdorf commented Jan 15, 2019

The survivalists aren't about to insult you by giving you a cash card. They're going to give you a hand-written note which is a promise, on their word as manperson of honor, that you can come back in 3 months time and they'll give you 20 lbs of flour or whatever the terms of the deal were. It's not currency or cash, because it's a promise from the survivalist to you, for some specific things at some specific time. You can't trade it to someone else and have them redeem it, or come back in 6 months time and get apple jam instead of flour.

The Radiant ones seem like an improbably small faction with improbably grandiose goals. Might be funny if there were two of them, though.

Fence Men slaves can probably be turned into normal, if somewhat traumatized, companions.


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Sniperman1109 commented Jan 20, 2019

Knights OF The Cataclysm.
•Description: The Knights of the cataclysm are made up of a buch of medieval fanatics who not only studied the way of the knight and the fighting style of them but also always took a liking to the architectural types buildings that were im the medieval ages as well. They got their armors by either owning them prior to the cataclysm or they found armor on scouting runs in mansions, pawn shops, musems, and they also have a few among them who can craft armor aswell that being they have they right resources.
• Attitude: they are weary of outsiders and their tecnology but will still welcome those that have a level head and wont start trouble in the towns.
•Faction Size and makeup: the faction size is small due to the fact that most didnt care about the medieval era and dont wish to live as our ancesters once did, but alas they are growing from taking on those who do not mind converting their lifestyle/beliefs over to the Knights OF The Cataclsyms beliefs. Mostly the population of the faction is made up of mosly men ages between 18 and 60, and a decent amount of women ranging from 18 and 60.
•Relations: They do not Like any zombie cult that may form , and they dislike mutants as well because of their grotesque Looks and want nothing to do with them at all.
•What they wish to Acomplish: The Knights of The Cataclysm want nothing more then to carve out their own piece in the world of CDDA and wish to possibly recreate society in a medieval form minus some of the more barbaric ways like in the oldin days.
•Towns/Bases: They vary from small villages with a few peasents and few lightly armored milita to semi sorta big settelmets with a stone wall surrounding the perimeter of the town with gates at every entrace along with fully armored guards stading next to them letting people in or out “if this is possible”.
•Trade: even tho they dont like tecnology they srent fools either and know that this is still a modern world and they will need things like guns, kevlar armor for the utmost protection agaisnt bullets, and things that can help preserve food, and food itself.
•Missons: “A Lord of sorts should give these or a village leader/ elder” Rescuing enslaved peasents or captured knights who fell in battle. Get the black smith some materials and he could make something for you as payment. Helling a farmer get some seeds so he can grow more food for the village. Taking out some bandits that have been coming into town robbing the town or trade caravans. Taking a villager/merchant to another town guarding then ensuring their safety etc.
I hope you guys like my faction idea! Ive actaully in my playthrough have been trying to make my faction medieval and dress eveyone in medieval attire. I really hope this finds its way into the game! Let me know what you guys think!

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