Degenerating HP (Without STS)

[MisterWytt]

Describe the bug
I've been having a difficult issue. What I first thought was the source to STS, it seems I was completely mistaken.

I seem to have a bug that occurs randomly in my playthroughs. I haven't been able to replicate it with successful results, but I managed to pin it down in one of my recent saves.

Here's how it goes. Every so often each of my limbs will lose a point of HP. This happens more frequently when I'm waiting in place. Along with that, I get 1 point of Pain. I'm made aware of this thanks to the Self-Aware trait.

I've managed to tie it to my save file which I have not been able to replicate in other worlds and chars that I've tested. And I'm at a loss on what mod or function may be causing it, as it either pops up, or it doesn't.

To Reproduce
Steps to reproduce the behavior:

1. Grab the save file that's attached to this report.
2. Load the game up with its required mods, and just wait in place with the | key, keeping a careful eye on both the HP of your limbs, and your pain meter.
3. When successful, you'll see every limb take a point of damage, and you yourself take a point of pain from seemingly nowhere.

Expected behavior
You aren't supposed to take damage or pain (Unless otherwise indicated)

Screenshots
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Versions and configuration(please complete the following information):

• OS: Windows 10
• Game Version: 0.D-576-g6d4a4ba (tiles)
• Graphics version: Tiles
• Mods loaded:
  "dda",
  "no_npc_food",
  "aftershock",
  "SD_Magcrafting",
  "realguns",
  "SD_Magcrafting_Realguns_Extension",
  "FIC_Weapons",
  "growable-pots",
  "ew_pack",
  "makeshift",
  "Medieval_Stuff",
  "More_Survival_Tools",
  "nw_pack",
  "modular_turrets",
  "PK_REBALANCE",
  "Salvaged_Robots",
  "alt_map_key",
  "Cata++",
  "npc_traits",
  "crazy_cataclysm",
  "mutant_npcs",
  "national_guard_camp_edit",
  "mapgen_demo",
  "more_locations",
  "FujiStruct",
  "boats",
  "deoxymod",
  "blazemod",
  "Tanks",
  "DP_REMIX_INDICATORS",
  "no_religious_Texts",
  "no_olg_guns",
  "no_pipe_guns",
  "more_classes_scenarios",
  "manualbionicinstall",
  "no_reviving_zombies",
  "safeautodoc"

Additional

Remember: STS isn't loaded in this playthrough, and yet I still have this degeneration bug. Something or some bugged mechanic has to be causing this. And I just can't pin it down reliably. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't.

Save File.zip

[Zireael07]

Is there anything radiating around? Waste dump? Artifacts?

[ZhilkinSerg]

Does not reproduce for me on latest master - hp won't go down and no pain increase while waiting a lot.

You have a bunch of third-party mods (which I didn't use), so it could be their fault - for example, PK has Quivering Bowels effect which can cause pain. It is also possible there are items in one of the mods which have flag like RADIOACTIVE.

[MisterWytt]

Try it with PK's loaded. I removed that mod and the random acts of pain and damage suddenly stopped.

As for status effects and irradiation, no, I didn't get any of those status effects while waiting. I even carefully timed it where I got the damage at the exact time it happened.

[ZhilkinSerg]

If it is PKs - we can't help you here.

[MisterWytt]

Yeah. I've reloaded the map and char several times now with and without PK's. It's being the culprit. Debug menu also says my Healing is in the negatives.

I'll post a report over at PK's and see if something can be done.

[ZhilkinSerg]

Try here

• https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/pks-rebalancing-unofficial-patch/16060/124

[Night-Pryanik]

Closing then.