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Warmth numbers need consistency. #8518

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Griffinhart opened this issue Aug 11, 2014 · 8 comments

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commented Aug 11, 2014

I'm in an ice lab right now, and the ambient temperature is -63C.

  • Torso: 175 warmth, yellow.
  • Head: 195 warmth, red.
  • Eyes: 75 warmth, grey.
  • Mouth: 170 warmth, yellow.
  • L/R. Arm: 195 warmth, red.
  • L/R. Hand: 160 warmth, green.
  • L/R. Leg: 206 warmth, blue.
  • L/R. Foot: 95 warmth, cyan.

Basically... I have no idea what clothes/warmth is suitable for a given ambient temperature.

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commented Aug 11, 2014

I'm not sure if it affects the numbers or just occurs in the background, but AFAIK the HP of your various limbs impacts warmth, as does infections/disease, etc...so if your legs are injured, that could be why they're feeling the cold more. Also, if they were already chilly/freezing, they need time to warm back up, during which they'll 'feel' colder?

This stuff really needs to be explained somewhere in game, I think. This and wetness-causing-cold, while quite sensible, really throw me off at times, since I have no clue what's going on or why.

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commented Aug 11, 2014

if your legs are injured

They weren't. Full health across the board.

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commented Aug 11, 2014

Keep a copy of this save, I'd like top look at it when I have a chance. Mutations also modify body temperature. The wiki might have info, if not I'll have to add it.

@KA101 KA101 added Bug labels Aug 11, 2014

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commented Aug 11, 2014

Keep a copy of this save

Uh, bit late to tell me that now. I've since moved on from the ice lab. Still, shouldn't be too hard to replicate:

Version 0.A-5381-ga88cbe0

  • reinforced union suit (fits)
  • reinforced wearable flashlight
  • fancy watch
  • reinforced pair of stockings (fits)
  • reinforced survivor cargo pants (fits)
  • reinforced winter survivor suit (fits)
  • reinforced survivor trenchcoat (fits)
  • reinforced pair of drop leg pouches (fits)
  • reinforced pair of elbow pads
  • reinforced fanny pack (fits)
  • reinforced pair of hard arm guards
  • reinforced balaclava (fits)
  • reinforced large quiver with metal arrow (fits)
  • reinforced scabbard with reinforced diamond katana (fits)
  • reinforced pair of winter survivor boots, full (fits)
    • diamond knife x2
  • reinforced holster with accurized RM103A automagnum (fits)
  • reinforced pair of glove liners (fits)
  • reinforced pair of knee pads
  • reinforced pair of stylish sunglasses
  • reinforced winter survivor mask (fits)
  • reinforced helmet liner (fits)
  • reinforced winter survivor hood (fits)
  • reinforced heavy survivor duffel bag
  • reinforced pair of winter survivor gloves (fits)
  • reinforced pair of fur gloves
  • reinforced helmet netting
  • reinforced fur scarf
  • reinforced pair of hard leg guards
  • reinforced fur cloak
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commented Aug 11, 2014

As for mutations, I think I only had Wing Stubs. Hard to remember, since I picked up a lot of mutagen from said lab and save-scummed.

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commented Aug 14, 2014

Ice labs might not have been updated in that weather overhaul... so the ui may be lying or something. Still gonna be a few days before I can look into it. Does this only happen in ice labs?

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commented Aug 14, 2014

I haven't managed to encounter -63C temperatures (or temperatures even close to that) outside of ice labs, so I can't say.

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commented Aug 16, 2014

@Griffinhart, I debugged myself into an ice lab at -61C. I wore a fur sleeping bag and all my limbs were consistently at the same warmth. I put on a variety of clothing on and still got the same consistency. If you happen across this bug again, keep a save! I can't reproduce it.

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