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Alpha 4 (Doppio) - December 18, 2017

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Crowdsourced search by Location, Time, and Tags


ThereThenThat is like a scrapbook for media and links.

ThereThenThat enables searching through time, space, and/or keyword. Collections can be easily shared in a consistently formatted link.

It has elements of Imgur, or Flickr, or a Blog... Check out:

Historical Note: I originally wrote this idea up in 2003-2005:

Release Note for Alpha 4 (Doppio):

  • migrating to a mixin
  • better support for drag/drop of links to other pages

Tag View is not stable. There is no collection to paste or drag to in that mode. The idea will be to create a "collection by the day" to handle all new media. The goal is:

  • when looking at a collection, new media/links will go to that collection + a collection for that day
  • when looking at tag view, new media/links will go to a collection for that day


  • Search for collections by Location, Time, and/or Tags
  • Drag and Drop links to web pages...
  • Drag and Drop image, audio(mp3), and video(mp4) files into it...
  • instant previews and auto-upload
  • tag individual items

Users start a collection that expresses some “where, when, what” concept, and fill it with references and media that relate to that. Think of something such as:

"New York City, November 2017, CentralPark, Parade"

A simpler form of this project is my work on SnapperStore -- it sticks to tags for individual items, and groups items by date uploaded.

Build Setup

After cloning the repository, you will see this top level directory structure:

├── ThereThenThat-client
│   ├── build
│   ├── config
│   ├── src
│   │   ├── assets
│   │   ├── components
│   │   ├── router
│   │   ├── store
│   │   └── stylus
│   ├── static
│   └── test
│       └── unit
│           └── specs
├── ThereThenThat-server
│   └── models
└── common

Server Side

cd ThereThenThat-server

The configuration for the server is kept in config.json:

  "MONGO_DB_HOST": "mongo host",
  "MONGO_DB_CONNECT": "mongodb://localhost/mytttapp",
  "SERVER_ADDRESS": "http://localhost:3100",
  "SERVER_PORT": "3100",
  "CLIENT_ADDRESS": "http://localhost:8080"

These defaults should be fine for a local development environment. If you want to change the default collection name (from "nytttapp"), do so in MONGO_DB_CONNECT.

# install dependencies
npm install

# Node process will run at port 8081
npm run server

You should be running a recent version of MongoDB. Here is what I am using at the moment:

Brooklyn:projects dls$ mongo --version
MongoDB shell version v3.4.4
git version: 888390515874a9debd1b6c5d36559ca86b44babd
OpenSSL version: OpenSSL 1.0.2l  25 May 2017
allocator: system
modules: none
build environment:
    distarch: x86_64
    target_arch: x86_64

Client Side

cd ThereThenThat-client

The configuration for the client is kept in src/config.js:

const configs = {
  ENV: 'Local Dev',
  CLIENT: 'http://localhost:8080',
  SERVER: 'http://localhost',
  SERVER_PORT: ':3100'  

You will need your own Google API key to use Google Maps. In index.html, Change "YOUR_GOOGLE_MAPS_API_KEY" to your key:

<script async defer type="text/javascript"

For more information on how to get a Google Maps API key, go to:

# install dependencies
npm install

# serve with hot reload at localhost:8080
npm run dev

Getting Started

Once the client and server sides are running, you will see a mostly empty page at http://localhost:8080/

Create a collection by clicking in any of the text fields up at the top of the page: Location, Time, or Tags. You can change any of the fields, and then press the "Create" button to create a collection. From that point, you are taken to your new collection +(which will be empty). You can now add links or media to that collection. Try to drag and drop an image from your local machine. [need to make this render with the tag functionality right away.. for now, refresh the page]


Tags can be used to direct search (find all items with same tag)

Editing Tags

Clicking on the pencil button for any item will allow you to add and remove tags.

Some Notes

Article: Deploy on Digital Ocean

(this is on hold until a couple of bugs are addressed)

Repo & Article: SnapperStore on Digital Ocean

My companion project to ThereThenThat is SnapperStore. It has a different focus.

A few notes on dependencies:

There will be a future document about the architecture of ThereThenThat. In broad strokes, the server side is a headless CMS, and the dev client runs in a completely seperate Node/Webpack/Vue.js environment. There is also a dependency on having a working MongoDB instance.

  • Client - Vue.js, Vuetify, Vuex, Google Maps API
  • Server - Node.js, Express, Multer, Mongoose, MongoDB


Server and Client for ThereThenThat - crowd sourced search







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