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Simulator Expedition improvement and Turma talk #156

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rodrigomoreda opened this issue Sep 17, 2019 · 13 comments
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Simulator Expedition improvement and Turma talk #156

rodrigomoreda opened this issue Sep 17, 2019 · 13 comments

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@rodrigomoreda rodrigomoreda commented Sep 17, 2019

create an option to change skill, armor, block, as it does in arenas, before calculating the percentage of victory against the expedition beast.
And would you like to know what you need to place new animals from Britain?
Maybe I can help
I made a calculator in excel to know what is worth doing with the circus class items, there is only one thing I do not know, is the threat, how you formulate it?
You do a great job, thanks.

@GramThanos GramThanos changed the title suggestion Simulator Expedition improvement and Turma talk Sep 17, 2019
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@GramThanos GramThanos commented Sep 17, 2019

The expedition simulator needs a lot of improvements in general. We added static stats of each enemy (from a random battle, or based on average), but the correct way to do it is to generate random stats (but we don't know the min max and the distribution of the stats). For underworld, the enemies seems to scale based on your level, so the current way (for underworld) is not good.

So, right now, to add an enemy, just a photo of the enemy's stats is enough, not perfect but better than nothing.

Lets now talk about the turma threat. We don't know how the Gladiatus handle the threat, so I personally implemented a WoW like way (hahaha). All players has a starting threat, the tank gets a x10 multiplier. Then, we basically normalize all the threats to generate the chance each player has to be attacked by the enemy. This way of using the threat game me results close to the Gladiatus' reports (in scores).

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@rodrigomoreda rodrigomoreda commented Sep 17, 2019

of the enemies that open at level 150, I can make it available myself, in a few hours (because I'm about to level up) haha
of the others from 160 to 180, I will talk to the Top of my country.

but overall the site: https://gladiatus.gamerz-bg.com/britannia-expeditions
has the information of the expedition chief.
the 3 normal animals are not very useful after you start hitting only the bosses.

about the threat i'll do some tests with the information you gave me, thank you very much.

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@rodrigomoreda rodrigomoreda commented Sep 18, 2019

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@GramThanos GramThanos commented Sep 19, 2019

I calculated the averages for each one based on your data (min/max for their damage) and I added the data on the web page.

Keep in mind that the expedition simulator may not handle correctly the block / critical / avoid critical chances (we don't have / haven't calculated the equivalent points of each enemy to generate different chances for each player). This may only be a problem on enemies with high chances or if the player and the monster have a big level difference (assuming that the new block formula that involves level difference applies on the expeditions too).

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@rodrigomoreda rodrigomoreda commented Sep 24, 2019

my calculator that i made in excel to get a sense of which items are better
there's something wrong in the class circus
How would I see the formulas you used to come up with a simulation of your circus?
or look at mine and see what's wrong?
mine is in excel

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@GramThanos GramThanos commented Sep 24, 2019

I can send/show you our php code, if you can read algorithms.

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@rodrigomoreda rodrigomoreda commented Sep 25, 2019

send me then please
rodriguin_moreda@hotmail.com
I don't understand php code, but I have some friends who understand, they help me
thanks

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@egaznep egaznep commented Apr 11, 2020

Maybe the add-on can collect data from users' fights (if player opts-IN for this study), then one can possibly try logistic regression or some other type of statistical method to increase the accuracy of the simulator. Establish the current simulator as a prior, then let the data "speak the truth".

Would you be interested in such a study?

Remark: The data collection could be done completely anonymously. Only the stats of the attacker and the enemy can be collected and it would be enough.

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@GramThanos GramThanos commented Apr 11, 2020

From the data side this is correct. But we also need to uncover the turma algorithm.

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@FrutyX FrutyX commented Dec 26, 2021

Closing, if you want to continue someday, feel free to do in #308, unless it needs a New issue.

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