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The website could look much nicer #19

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amcewen opened this Issue Sep 13, 2014 · 38 comments

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amcewen commented Sep 13, 2014

We'd like to update the website, so it does a better job of telling new visitors what we are, and also looks much nicer.

(When we're doing a refresh anyway, it might be a good point to move it onto some hosting that DoES owns - as outlined in issue #18).

  • List what content we have already that needs to move to the new site
  • List the "customer journeys" we expect it to satisfy - e.g. new arrival wanting to maybe hot-desk; new arrival wanting to 3D print; existing user needing to book laser-cutter; community member looking to see what events are on;...
  • Draw up a list of similar websites to use as inspiration

From that then prepping a list of features/pages/etc. that we need (the requirements), which can be used by the developer and designer to create the site.

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DoESsean commented Oct 14, 2014

Right...

There is a short list of questions and things we need to think about for the website on the whiteboard. Whether or not anyone ever looks at the whiteboard is another matter. People should be adding their own thoughts if they're relevant.

Also, it's worth thinking about the questions and how we want to address them, otherwise we may miss something important when building the site, which would then necessitate a re-jig.

Ideally, I'd like to get moving on this soon, as we've been dragging our feet on it for a couple of months, so will put in a deadline for suggestions, ideas and comments very soon.

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zarino commented Oct 15, 2014

Happy to help with this if you need a designer / frontend developer. The DoES site's written in WordPress right?

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DoESsean commented Oct 16, 2014

Yes, Zarino, it's a WordPress site, so shouldn't be too much difficulty to glam up a little bit. It's just gathering all the content that will be tricky.

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amcewen commented Feb 5, 2015

Should issue #91 go in the requirements list for the website?

It doesn't have to live at status.doesliverpool.com, but should be at an easy to remember URL, and could be on the main site somewhere. However, status.doesliverpool.com would let it sit on different hosting and allow notification of whether http://doesliverpool.com was up or not, in the future... :-s

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zarino commented Feb 6, 2015

@amcewen – Looks to me like #91 is a separate ticket. This one is already overly broad, I wouldn't want to add yet more considerations into it. The status page can be thought about completely separately, no?

(See, for example, status.github.com and status.heroku.com, which have completely different styling and markup to their parent sites)

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amcewen commented Feb 24, 2015

@DoESsean to audit our existing site(s) to build a list of pages, etc. Then we can have a meeting to work out what we still need, and we'll (I expect) generate a list of additional requirements too (at least to get us moving on it)

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jamieisboss commented Jan 5, 2016

@amcewen Nothing happened on this for a long time so I did a bunch of it one day and took photos, I'll finish it soon and then you can not like it and iterate or whatever until you do but you might as well assign this one to me for the time being

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skos-ninja commented Jan 8, 2016

Turns out, I can't assign you for some reason

@amcewen amcewen assigned amcewen and unassigned amcewen Jan 10, 2016

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amcewen commented Jan 10, 2016

I think it's because @jamieisboss isn't a member of the @DoESLiverpool organisation - yet. I've just sent him an invite, so assuming he accepts then we'll be able to assign it to him :-)

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jamieisboss commented Jan 12, 2016

Hi

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jamieisboss commented Apr 24, 2016

Ok, so i have a half done wordpress site somewhere but as decided in #273, it's unneeded overhead, so will use the design, rip out the WP bits and change with a view to being auto-regen html pages.

@amcewen did you take a look at those photos yet? Any that you specifically don't want used? Also i think you said you were getting some back from that photo thing while ago, did you? if so can you pls give me access somehow, removing any you don't want used from the share, and if there's loads, and people like some in particular, you pick 5 now then we can set up some more fair system for people to vote if anyone wants to have a say.

Half the time you end up needing text where the detail is and stuff so it's usually better to get a version going so people can see the restricting factors, then iterate with input that's already been refined by the person inputting IM(nv)HO

I'm going to find that cloud thread to see if the answers o my questions are there before i ask tthem

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amcewen commented Apr 27, 2016

Have sent the ones the LEP took over to you, and forwarded the email about the ones you took to the rest of the organisers (they look pretty good to me, and we can always complain about ones you pick and suggest alternatives once they're on a website ;-)

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jamieisboss commented Apr 30, 2016

Ok cool, I'll go for it then and once there's something sans-wordpress, (i can't remember what i got up to, it's probably be better to start fresh anyway, there's new stuff since I started it.)

I'll pop a staging server somewhere for a few rounds of picking at it before it goes live.

I dont know if there's any copy people about who would want to get involved with the creation of a few alluring passages or who'd be alright with goin o'er what i write. My copy is usually pretty good for a muggle but of all the things that I'm good at, copy is somewhere in he middle, so if anything was going to benefit to benefit from a professional touch, words is it.

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ReddbridgeMark commented May 3, 2016

Happy to help out with a copy-edit. Bang down what you want to say, and, subject to any additional guidance as to what you want, I can shape it/make suggestions for it.

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jamieisboss commented May 12, 2016

@ReddbridgeMark Awesome, will let you know when there's something for you to look at.

@amcewen A broader marketing type question. (And maybe a bit
more difficult to answer unless the organisers have already discussed it, because really it should be consistent throughout all the outward facing communication) is there a voice that you guys have in mind for DoES. I found a decent article explaining so i dont try and we're on the same page with the definintion.

Personally I've always thought the secret acronym and the Days since last explosion sign (accurate as it is) and other little touches make the place feel personal and able to be funny in an introspective way. (and for this bit, I'd also met a few of you before DoES was born, so I cant use myself as an example anyway) That's all real world stuff though so ideally, we want to mirror the real word feeling as much as possible in/on anything that is meant to be attracting people to DoES. Doing so should minimise wasted time and maximise conversions, or to not sound like a Salesperson, people feeling what they expected to feel on their first visit means they'll probably join or they wouldn't have bothered coming.

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skos-ninja commented May 13, 2016

The only issue I see with moving away from wordpress is that we will either have to import all the old blog posts or keep an old version of the site

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jamieisboss commented May 13, 2016

Thats not an issue, im guessing the weekenotes thing generates a blog post then, you can export them all from the backened as json anyway, or use the new API to pull them across. No neeed to worry about that stuff, I'll have the new site running in a staging environment before we switch so any/everyone can check it's all alright, and I'll keep the old one running with the name changed for a few weeks after the switchover ideally so a rollback will be a DNS change and 2 wordpress database fields (if we put you on cloudflare, that stops th 48hour dns propogation thing so would be useful here, should be discussed but ive started a new repo for the website as of 30 mins ago so these things can be seperated out into their own issues list)

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skos-ninja commented May 13, 2016

I will also need an api that I can ping so that the status system can detect if it is offline

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DefProc commented Jan 23, 2017

Probably worth keeping this open, as the website is still running on a basic theme. So the original issue is still valid.

@DefProc DefProc reopened this Jan 23, 2017

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zarino commented Jan 23, 2017

The new main nav—especially with that “Services” menu—is so much better! Well done everyone involved!

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DefProc commented Jan 23, 2017

I think the biggest improvement we could make in the short term would be to have a better overview of the services that DoES offers. As there is currently a menu item, but no page, a services page with some kind of table breakdown listing services, cost and benefits would be easier for a new viewer to see what we offer them, and what it costs.

e.g. things like:

  • Maker Night (free)
  • Maker Day (free)
  • evening events (normally free to attend)
  • Friends of DoES £9
  • Friends with benefits £15
  • Hotdesking £10/£5
  • Monthly Workshop access £50
  • Monthly desk rate £150
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goatchurchprime commented Jan 23, 2017

Perhaps we could close this and replace it with a slightly more closable ticket -- ie one that can be satisfied.

Now that all the changeable content is moved to the github wiki (where folks can efficiently self-manage their accounts and therefore do stuff), the wordpress page is only holding deep-links to the github wiki and the weeknotes.

Do we want to specifically improve the decoration and banners on the wordpress page with a photo or something? Do we want to fiddle with the layout and decoration on particular core pages on the github wiki? Either of these (or both) would define a ticket that's a bit more soluble and has a greater likelihood of getting closed.

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DefProc commented Feb 27, 2017

@goatchurchprime I've reverted some of the wiki links for the website, specifically dropping the Membership and Access link because it's a page that does everything-in-a-giant-page, and separating out:

  • Services — with a pricing table
  • re-adding the laser calendars #459
  • re-adding the google group link
  • removing "start here"
  • having Location as a root item
  • consolidating the other links under Services, Events and Community so there are just 4 top level headings.
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amcewen commented Jun 29, 2017

Organisers' meeting notes: There's an ongoing group looking at this and covered in the last meeting minutes.

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DoESsean commented Sep 21, 2017

Helen has agreed to help with the website. @amcewen or @johnmckerrell , can you please put her in touch with Will (as she's not sure who he is) and see if they can coordinate together?

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DefProc commented Oct 30, 2017

Update on this:

We've got a working group on this consisting of:

  • Helen, with experience on copy and marketing,
  • Will with backend and frontend website development experience,
  • Sean who "gets stuff done around here" ,
  • Me, coz I did the last wordpress deployment, and can access all the hosting stuff.

The expected work will split into two parts:

  1. revise the current website to make DoES offering more prominent, and explain where DoES is currently/will be located for prospective users.
  2. A larger redesign to better present DoES through the website.

We're creating a spec for the outcome at the moment, so are currently collecting input on features, recomendations and warnings, either below, or on the whiteboard in the main room. This is based there being two main user types for the website:

  • People who haven't been in (or have only been a few times) to DoES who want to find out what DoES is, how it can help them and how they can get involved,
  • More frequent DoES members who use the website as the starting point to get to DoES's more in depth resources.
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goatchurchprime commented Nov 20, 2017

Where is this document? (Maybe on the wiki?)

I've put some notes on the whiteboard, mostly about a really good "how to find us" printable page, and inlining feeds of events, twitter, issues, personal github commits and equipment status on the front page.

Also, @paulfurley has tech for syndicating other events into the main feed.
#573

Oh, and we should use Bret's plugin that dumps your websurfing history into a daily stream of links. Use this feature whenever looking up technical stuff or searching for electronic sensors you're thinking of buying (or writing drivers for) to more easily get to know when someone is sizing up for an order.

I'd like to be able to publish my RS shopping cart before I pay so other people can add stuff to it.

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DoESsean commented Nov 23, 2017

@willcrobinson and @Helen-8, any idea when you guys will be available to get together again?

I don't know if there has been any movement on the discussion we had last time - and we should probably include any notes that were made in this issue so that people can see where we're up to - but it might be worth seeing if we can fit something in before Christmas if you have chance, although I do appreciate that this is a busy time for everyone so that might not be possible.

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ajlennon commented Feb 25, 2019

Website looks lovely to me. Can we close this?

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zarino commented Feb 25, 2019

Yes! If there are outstanding issues with the website, it’s much better to raise them as new tickets, than keep this old one open.

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