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Create wiki instructions & agree a consumables pricing model for the Ricoh sublimation printer #545

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ajlennon opened this issue Jul 26, 2017 · 18 comments

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commented Jul 26, 2017

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Dynamic Devices Ltd is leaving a Ricoh 3110DN A4 sublimation printer at DoES Liverpool on extended loan.

e.g. see video here

It's anticipated that this will primarily be of use to the #wearables group and users of the workshop space, and should compliment the existing facilities for vinyl cutting and heat pressing for t-shirts.

The printer may be used for t-shirt printing with the heated press already available in the workshop. In future it may be worth considering purchase of equipment to support printing onto other items e.g. mugs.

Process:

  • design artwork
  • print reversed image of artwork using 3110DN using the special sublimation ink in the printer onto the special sublimation paper that is needed
  • place onto sublimation compatible t-shirt (i.e. high polyester content) in heat press
  • close heat press for X seconds (probably about 40 but this will need checking)
  • wear t-shirt proudly and follow DoES Core Process
  1. Do Epic Stuff
  2. Tell People About it
  3. Go to Step 1

Consumables

  • CMYK ink cartridges see here
  • Sublimation paper see here
  • T-shirts here

Note that t-shirts must be sublimation compatible, i.e. cotton t-shirts will not work T-shirts must have a high polyester content for the process to work.

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The ink costs are high. We may want to pursue an arrangment like the 3D printing charging model. As a start I need to try to work out an average per t-shirt printing cost, unless somebody has knowledge on this.

Also it may be unworkable to try to maintain a stock of different sizes, colours and styles of t-shirt. It may be better to try to organise a collective agreement for users to purchase and a trip to MDP in Bromborough (or delivery is free for > £100 orders)

Measurable

  • printer will be commissioned into workshop space somewhere or other

Achievable

  • commissioning should be easy.
  • charging model needs discussion and thought.

Responsible

  • AlexL + ?

Time-constrained

  • printer in place by next week
  • plan on consumables some time during next week or two

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commented Jul 26, 2017

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commented Jul 26, 2017

It's basically a normal smallish ink-jet @johnmckerrell. It does non-sublimation printing jobs but also supports sublimation inks. I don't anticipate we'd want to use it for any non-sublimation printing jobs though.

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commented Jul 26, 2017

To cover DoES we perhaps also need a sticker on the machine (with obligatory QR code pointing to wiki page) explaining clearly that DoES Liverpool does not countenance any use of this equipment that may infringe 3rd party intellectual property rights. (e.g. printing and selling t-shirts with unlicensed commercially copyrighted designs)

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commented Jul 26, 2017

I found some details on working out ink pricing here

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commented Jul 28, 2017

Printer is installed and running on the network.

The process was a bit more involved than I expected and more error and trial is needed.

But there is a placeholder wiki page up here to enable people to get going.

https://github.com/DoESLiverpool/wiki/wiki/Ricoh-3110DN-Sublimation-Printer-(T-Shirt-Printing)

NB. Discussions with @DefProc have shown there's a clear need to make sure anybody using the heat press or in the workshop when it is being used has had an appropriate workshop induction as it is potentially quite a dangerous piece of kit.

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commented Jul 28, 2017

Hmm. Maybe you should add tags to pages which could be reformatted against a template, in the style of the way Wikipedia does things

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commented Aug 1, 2017

Hi @johnmckerrell. The IP address for the printer keeps hopping about. Could somebody have a look at the router and set it to something to something that doesn't change? Thanks!

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commented Aug 1, 2017

Found an opensource coverage calculator here which looks a useful starting point.

$ pkpgcounter -c CMYK bod_wordcloud.png
C : 8.352576% M : 9.590505% Y : 11.207828% K : 80.487432%

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commented Aug 3, 2017

IP address has been jumping around a bit but should be fixed now at 192.168.0.15

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commented Nov 2, 2017

Could this be considered done now? It seems like we have some prices and a wiki page?

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commented Nov 2, 2017

Has anybody managed to figure out if anybody paid for any consumables?

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commented Nov 2, 2017

Hmm. That sounds like a plan. I wonder if we can print a stats page? We should be able to see something shouldn't we.

Is it worth putting a money jar beside the printer to ensure consumables are funded out of printer use in future? And updating the wiki accordingly?

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commented Dec 14, 2017

The spare money jar was put in place next to the printer.

We also have a mug press and mugs now, so need to work out pricing for that. @jackie1050 also ordered some t-shirts, although she has said that she is happy to pay for them and sell them at cost if people want them, or use them herself.

It might be an idea to start thinking about charging a total price per item, so say £3 for a mug, which would cover the mug itself, the printing, and leave a little left over. We could look at a similar pricing structure for t-shirts and any other consumables we have.

People could still bring in their own stuff to print on, but it would give a very easy starting point for pricing and, if we do start to worry that people aren't paying correctly (which is a concern for me with regards to everything in the workshop), we could make it so that those consumables are kept elsewhere and are purchased as you receive them.

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commented Mar 5, 2019

Can this be closed @jackie1050 ?

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commented Mar 5, 2019

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