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Citation requirement is not mandatory #300

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davidread opened this issue Jan 22, 2014 · 12 comments
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Citation requirement is not mandatory #300

davidread opened this issue Jan 22, 2014 · 12 comments

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@davidread
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@davidread davidread commented Jan 22, 2014

http://www.data.gov/data-policy states that federal data is licensed without restriction, yet later it says "users must clearly state that “Data.gov and the Federal Government cannot vouch for the data". That "must" is a restriction, so seems inconsistent with the license. Can this be clarified?

@JeanneHolm JeanneHolm added this to the Version 2.10 milestone Apr 3, 2014
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@JoshData JoshData commented Jul 6, 2014

+1

@hkdctol
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@hkdctol hkdctol commented Sep 24, 2014

Agree and we will update the language on that page.

@rebeccawilliams
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@rebeccawilliams rebeccawilliams commented Sep 24, 2014

I agree as well that this language is confusing and should be removed.

Also, while licensing and provenance are open issues on Project Open Data, to my knowledge there has not been a discussion about a citation metadata field, or best practice citation format for agencies to include as a recommendation in their metadata.

Though M-13-13 includes this mention of citation: "This public data listing should also include, to the extent permitted by law and existing terms and conditions, datasets that were produced through agency-funded grants, contracts, and cooperative agreements (excluding any data submitted primarily for the purpose of contract monitoring and administration), and, where feasible, be accompanied by standard citation information, preferably in the form of a persistent identifier."

Absent further Project Open Data guidance, I suggest that Data.gov does not presume the citation policy here, and removes the entire "Citing Data" section until the Project Open Data guidance provides specifics on this topic.

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@rebeccawilliams rebeccawilliams commented Sep 24, 2014

Additionally, if Data.gov attribution specifically is helpful, I'd suggest we add language similar to openFDA's ToS in lieu of the current "Citing Data" section:

"Attribution

While not required, when using content, data, documentation, code, and related materials from openFDA in your own work, we ask that proper credit be given. An example citation is provided below:

Data provided by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (https://open.fda.gov)"

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@hkdctol hkdctol commented Sep 24, 2014

@rebeccawilliams @JeanneHolm Let's try language similar to openFDA's and keep track of any developments on citation on Project Open Data.

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@rebeccawilliams rebeccawilliams commented Sep 24, 2014

Sounds good to me.

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@rebeccawilliams rebeccawilliams commented Sep 25, 2014

Updated! And see below:

screen shot 2014-09-25 at 5 02 02 pm

Thanks for this feedback!

@seanherron
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@seanherron seanherron commented Sep 26, 2014

👍 Suggesting you be meta and cite openFDA's attribution clause in your attribution :)

@JoshData
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@JoshData JoshData commented Sep 26, 2014

That's a +1 I can get behind!

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@rebeccawilliams rebeccawilliams commented Sep 29, 2014

@seanherron I am glad it is immortalized here. 😄 But I fear the meta citation might confuse users. I'm inclined to keep this closed unless there's an example where this has been done before in a straightforward way to discuss.

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@nsinai nsinai commented Sep 29, 2014

Agree that the meta citation might confuse users -- but let the record show here (on an open github issue thread) the inspiration was openFDA!

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@seanherron seanherron commented Sep 29, 2014

I was joking - agree that it would be confusing. Glad to see cross pollination between projects!

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