Feature-Request: Add "film" and "animation" presets to x265

[RubenKelevra]

Please describe the problem or feature request in detail:

Before x265 was available I used x264. There are presets for "film" (some grain) and "animation". They enhance the encoding quality a lot.

I don't saw this presets on any x265 encoder at the moment, but the settings which has to be changed should be avaible on x265 as well, so I wonder if you could add them there as well.

Thanks :)

What version of HandBrake you are running:

1.0.3

What operating system and version and you running (e.g. OSX 10.11, Windows 7, Ubuntu 14):

Linux 4.10.2

[bradleysepos]

The encoder presets are created by the encoder developers. We're not in control of these upstream projects. As x265 matures, perhaps they will offer additional selections, at which point we'll try to include them. 😄

[RubenKelevra]

@bradleysepos hey! Thanks for the fast response.

I just noticed that I used the complete wrong term. "film" and "animation" are tuning not presets. Sorry for this.

I understand, that x265 still don't got them by default, but it should be very easy to add them in Handbrake anyway. They just alter some switches which are avaible on x265 too.

Film is:
--deblock -1:-1 --psy-rd 1.0:0.15

Animation is:
--deblock 1:1 --psy-rd 0.4:0.0 --aq-strength 0.6
The option --bframes get added 2
The option --ref get twice the value except if it's 1, than it remains 1

I understand if you want to keep Handbrake as close as possible on the avaible settings from the upstream, but this is just a very small change to Handbrake itself but a great improvement for the users. So please consider it again - I would greatly appreciate such an enhancement! :)

[bradleysepos]

HandBrake uses the tunes provided by the encoder; we don't intend to customize this particular control beyond the official tunes.

I'm curious, where did you find these settings? There is nothing stopping you from creating a custom preset, of course.

[RubenKelevra]

@bradleysepos here:

https://encodingwissen.de/codecs/x264/referenz/

[sr55]

That's for x264. The x265 developers have not yet added them.

If/When they do add them, they will be picked up automatically by HandBrake when we upgrade the library (which we do relatively frequently)

I'd suggest dropping them a request if you haven't already to find their stance on them.

[jaxjexjox]

For the love of all things holy, someone, somewhere needs to teach the AVERAGE PERSON using x265 and handbrake and ffmpeg that HEVC / x265 should NEVER be used in default mode. The lack of "-grain" on over 85% of x265 encodes is a sign of the stupidity of the encoders.

It's super frustrating to find so many pieces of content with all the detail washed away due to the lack of this.
I just found a 2GB x265 "great!" version of a file, taken from a bluray with significantly less detail than a 1.1GB x264 file ripped from TV.

It's sad and frustrating and it keeps occurring, someone needs to get the word out that not using -grain mode is damaging x265 in a big way.

[clippit]

it seems x265 has added --tune animation
https://x265.readthedocs.io/en/default/presets.html#tuning

[JoshPaulie]

it seems x265 has added --tune animation https://x265.readthedocs.io/en/default/presets.html#tuning

Broken link

https://x265.readthedocs.io/en/stable/presets.html