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missed complete themes "addons" #28

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pirate486743186 opened this Issue Nov 10, 2018 · 11 comments

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commented Nov 10, 2018

complete themes
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/complete-themes/

they used to be "complete themes" as opposed to light themes. In 2015 they where dropped.... kinda. They where converted to normal addons.

CAA completely missed them.... Mozilla too seams to have missed them when they deleted all the xul addons.... You better scrape them before they notice XD.... They are 493

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commented Nov 10, 2018

Sorry, but themes are beyond the scope of this project.

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commented Nov 10, 2018

You read the whole text right? Not just the title?
They are in a weird gray are.... So much so, that even mozilla forgot them XD lol.

Are they really themes or addons? They are technically classic XUL addons, you can't use them on firefox quantum. You can't even port them to firefox quantum, you can't convert them in to web extentions. It's a mess up from mozilla that they didn't purge them with the others. I installed the "firefox 2 theme" on waterfox, it was a 2 MB download. That's not the usual themes....

This is a repository for planets. Should you include pluto too? Is pluto a planet or not?

Also, see beyond rigid definitions. It's just a matter of time before they get deleted too. They can't be used by firefox quantum.

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commented Nov 10, 2018

I am aware of what the full themes are, and I have reasons not to include them into CAA.

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commented Nov 29, 2018

not to include them into CAA

... Of course, I'm not the one to question the owner's decisions 😉 ; let me just say how grateful I am for this project, which proved to me its immense value again today 👍 : at the time of writing (Nov 29th, 2018), ALL non-Quantum compatible extensions are not to be found on AMO anymore 😭 ; this does not only include XUL and jetpack ones, but even WebExtension ones that wouild install in Fx 48.0-56.0 and in Basilisk/UXP...
As expected, (complete) themes were not spared, so this is how I arrived in this issue's comments section...

From using this extension (v1.2.2) today, I noticed the catalogued legacy extensions are served by a ca-archive.biz.tm hostname, which itself redirects to a storage-waterfox.netdna-ssl.com hostname, making it safe to assume it points to an AMO back-up put in place by the Waterfox dev(s) (👍) ... I am not familiar with the Waterfox project, being on a 32-bit OS, but I want to kindly ask:

  1. Given that the Waterfox browser seems capable of installing third party complete themes, has it come to your knowledge whether the Waterfox AMO archiving project has actually backed up Complete Themes, too?
  2. If yes to (1.), is there some means to access those complete themes now (obviously outside this extension, since you are not inclined to support them - a decision I totally respect 😃 )?

I had always used 3rd party (mostly dark, due to vision issues) themes in my Firefox/Pale Moon/Basilisk profiles, I, of course, maintain local back-ups of said themes, but accidents do happen (e.g. HDD failures etc.), so having an online source to resort to would be comforting when the worst happens...

Most thankful for any eventual answer to my "Complete Themes" queries, may you be blessed for what you're doing for the benefit of real browsers (i.e. not Chrome clones 😞 ) !

Best regards

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commented Nov 29, 2018

complete themes and web extentions, are probably all on wayback machine, This is probably true for all files that were available in 2018. When trying to download them, use the full url with the "?stuff", the crawler actually created files like this "extension-name.xpi?stuff".

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commented Nov 29, 2018

complete themes [and web extentions,] are probably all on wayback machine,

... Well, of course, I already know that 😄; FWIW, latest WBM capture for "Complete Themes" is just from 5 days ago (for the en-US locale, anyway):

https://web.archive.org/web/20181124130244/https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/complete-themes/

But, sadly, not every version for every complete theme released is accessible via that route... My query is for a more "resilient"/reliable access solution (provided, hopefully, by a specially archived repository, if such even exists...); if the internet archive is all we're left with, it's by all means better than nothing at all... 😉

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commented Nov 30, 2018

until recently wayback machine didn't archive those files.

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commented Nov 30, 2018

extensions are not to be found on AMO [..] even WebExtension ones that wouild install in Fx 48.0-56.0

Just out of interest, could you give me an example?

it safe to assume it points to an AMO back-up put in place by the Waterfox dev(s)

In fact, they just kindly provided their CDN to host the data I collected.

whether the Waterfox AMO archiving project has actually backed up Complete Themes?

I am not aware of the existence of any backups made by them.

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commented Jan 8, 2019

Legacy add-ons in the Internet Archive Wayback Machine : waterfox

… Not all legacy add-ons are in the Wayback Machine, but installation does work for some of the add-ons that are not in the Classic Add-ons Archive (CAA). …

– and this includes some complete themes.

tl;dr green button, open link in new tab.

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commented Jan 9, 2019

I think that all complete themes that were at mozilla a few months ago are in the wayback machine. Unless some one has found a counter example?

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commented Jan 16, 2019

https://web.archive.org/web/20181124130244/https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/complete-themes/

– we have that (the first of thirty-one pages) last captured with results in November, then for page 2 it's a step back to mid-October 2018:

– jump to the last page, also captured on the 15th:

– from near the foot, the page for iPox captured on the 18th:

– with its .jar file captured around twenty seconds later.


Complete themes aside, recent 28e4837 was:

Open the Wayback Machine links with the date closest to October 2018

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