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add 2 week 2 hour expiry rule to nickname policy
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jesopo committed Jun 17, 2021
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@@ -97,12 +97,14 @@ additional names to your account, but please remember that these are not
collectibles and should not be hoarded or squatted.

Nickname and account registrations expire ten weeks after they are last used.
For grouped nicknames, "used" means that you were using the nickname while
logged in to the account which owns it. For accounts, "used" means that you
logged in to the account, regardless of the nickname you used to do so.
Nicknames which are the primary account name expire only when the entire
account is expired. If you know or plan to be absent for longer, please
contact network staff in advance for potential options.
Nicknames belonging to accounts that are older than two weeks but were last
used within two hours of registration are also considered to be expired. For

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ekohl Jun 22, 2021

Did you intend "only used" here? As in, only within the two hours after the registration and not after that.

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pastly Jun 22, 2021

last used and only used mean the same thing here.

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ryanakca Jun 22, 2021

The sentence "Nicknames belonging to accounts that are older than two weeks but were last
used within two hours of registration are also considered to be expired." is hard to parse because

  1. the subject "nicknames" is separated from the verb/object "are also considered to be expired" by lots of text
  2. it's not clear what the subject of "were last used" is.

Based on my understanding of #libera, the following would be clearer: Nicknames are also considered to be expired if they belong to accounts that are both older than two weeks and last used within two hours of registration.

grouped nicknames, "used" means that you were using the nickname while logged
in to the account which owns it. For accounts, "used" means that you logged
in to the account, regardless of the nickname you used to do so. Nicknames
which are the primary account name expire only when the entire account is
expired. If you know or plan to be absent for longer, please contact network
staff in advance for potential options.

In some cases, such as for very old accounts, we may, at our discretion,
extend the expiry time of a nickname or account, usually not beyond 15 weeks

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@MelchiorGaspar MelchiorGaspar replied Jun 22, 2021

So what does that mean?
do I have to stay logged in all the time or at least once a week or so?
because I don't usually stay logged in all the time..

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@grantwwu grantwwu replied Jun 22, 2021

So what does that mean?
do I have to stay logged in all the time or at least once a week or so?
because I don't usually stay logged in all the time..

My interpretation is that this rule change only impacts accounts where the only usage was within 2 hours of registration.

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@FeepingCreature FeepingCreature replied Jun 22, 2021

No, if you used your nick more than two hours after you registered it, you're fine. This is (I'm guessing) about cleaning up all the Freenode nicknames people snatched up early in the network's lifetime and then sat on.

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@THolding THolding replied Jun 22, 2021

So what does that mean?
do I have to stay logged in all the time or at least once a week or so?
because I don't usually stay logged in all the time..

You need to log in once every 10 weeks. Unless your account is less than two weeks old, then you have to log in at least once 2 hours after registration, and then once every 10 weeks. I think.

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@pastly pastly replied Jun 22, 2021

So what does that mean?
do I have to stay logged in all the time or at least once a week or so?
because I don't usually stay logged in all the time..

No.

Don't create an account and then never use it. That's what it means.

You don't have to stay logged in all the time.

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@SadieCat SadieCat replied Jun 22, 2021

It's just a policy change to stop people from hoarding nicknames and then never actually using them.

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@emanuelserpa emanuelserpa replied Jun 22, 2021

Was this 10 week rule present on the former Freenode network? I remember that I got almost a year without logging on freenode and my account worked fine.

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@relrod relrod replied Jun 22, 2021

this 10 week rule was present on the former Freenode network? I remember that I got almost a year without logging on freenode and my account worked fine.

yes, but someone could have asked for it to be dropped during that time. It doesn't get dropped automatically, but it's considered expired and could be dropped if someone wanted it, since you hadn't logged in and reset the timer.

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@Mikaela Mikaela replied Jun 22, 2021

Are you enabling automatic nickname expiration?

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@swantzter swantzter replied Jun 22, 2021

@Mikaela no, as with the 10 week rule someone actually have to ask for the nickname for it to be dropped

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@mquin mquin replied Jun 22, 2021

@Mikaela No.

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@edk0 edk0 replied Jun 22, 2021

To clarify for everyone here I'm going to reiterate what I've been saying in #libera: If you have ever been logged into your account while it was more than two hours old, your account and nicks are not affected by this change, and never will be.

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@katsuragi99 katsuragi99 replied Jun 22, 2021

Simply put, if you've been using your nick for more than 2 hours since registering your nick then just ignore this message and get back to your work

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