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Improve open transport data across the region #29

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amcewen opened this Issue Sep 8, 2017 · 5 comments

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amcewen commented Sep 8, 2017

The visualisation in #28 is missing almost all of the bus traffic across Merseyside. That seems to be because transit.land, which is what TransitFlow uses as its data source, doesn't have the bus GTFS feeds for Merseyside in it.

We should find (/encourage the publishing of) GTFS feeds for all the bus operators in Merseyside, and the ferries:

  • Arriva (Arriva Merseyside and a few Arriva North West)
  • Stagecoach (Stagecoach Merseyside, Stagecoach Lancashire and a couple of Stagecoach Manchester)
  • Mersey Ferries
  • Cumfybus (I'm pretty sure I've seen these in Liverpool, but creating the view just for Cumfybus has them hardly getting into Merseyside)
  • Halton Borough Transport
  • Holmeswood Coaches (seems to be a Chorley - Southport service)
  • Huyton Travel

What other ones are there? Do we need to get data for them too?

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It's the GTFS feed that gets submitted to transit.land, which is timetable info rather than real-time.

Real-time data would be nice (and I think @paulfurley had heard about there being a timetable, if you'll forgive the pun, for it being released, but I haven't spotted it yet), but as an addition to the timetable data. (Or at least, I haven't got an easy visualisation tool for real-time data, so the timetable info would also be good :-)

That Traveline link did lead me to the data.gov.uk dataset of registered bus operators which has a list of all the operators and the services they operate. I've added the ones from that which don't seem to be school buses or sightseeing ones to the list to get.

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amcewen commented Sep 11, 2017

It's the GTFS feed that gets submitted to transit.land, which is timetable info rather than real-time.

Real-time data would be nice (and I think @paulfurley had heard about there being a timetable, if you'll forgive the pun, for it being released, but I haven't spotted it yet), but as an addition to the timetable data. (Or at least, I haven't got an easy visualisation tool for real-time data, so the timetable info would also be good :-)

That Traveline link did lead me to the data.gov.uk dataset of registered bus operators which has a list of all the operators and the services they operate. I've added the ones from that which don't seem to be school buses or sightseeing ones to the list to get.

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There's an article on the Echo website today about Merseytravel moving to a more digital approach for timetables. Following a reply from @Merseytravel to me mentioning this issue I've dropped them an email to ask about it, and CCed Janet. I'll update when I hear back.

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amcewen commented Feb 8, 2018

There's an article on the Echo website today about Merseytravel moving to a more digital approach for timetables. Following a reply from @Merseytravel to me mentioning this issue I've dropped them an email to ask about it, and CCed Janet. I'll update when I hear back.

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