Feat/update threatmodeling cs #404
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Your change made me double-take because it's basically the outline I started hashing out the other day (but never got a chance to push it up) so I wondered how you got hold of it The only difference was the headings I used (subject to change). The idea being that the CS could discuss each heading with the DOs and DONTs:
I wasn't 100% on some of the DOs and DONTs, for example "DON’T Confuse can and should". I wasn't sure exactly what that meant. I also had a section which mentioned some tools, but all I had was OWASP Threat Dragon. I'm not sure on OWASP's stance on recommending commercial tools like Miro etc. |
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Please keep commercial tools and services out of cheatsheets. :)
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Jim Manico
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On Jun 5, 2020, at 5:59 AM, Benjamin Dale ***@***.***> wrote:
Your change made me double-take because it's basically the outline I started hashing out the other day (but never got a chance to push it up) so I wondered how you got hold of it
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Hahaha I have my ways. I believe the difference is perspective. Are you thinking in the headings to be actionable, or to help run the session? They're pretty similar. I set them as such to follow the flow in the questions asked, and not confuse the reader. What you did is flesh out what's happening. For the tools, you may mention them by specifying clearly which are free, which are commercial, and they need to be mainstream (not a way for marketing) with proper support and traction. |
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If your cheatsheet requires the discussion of commercial tools then you are not cheating enough.
These cheatsheets are meant to be brief, to the point, developer engineering guides. Also, OWASP actually is a charity, a 501c3 not for profit charitable organization. These public guides are not the place for citing commercial offerings or services. Even tools that are mainstream should not be in the guides.
Thank you all,
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Jim Manico
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… On Jun 7, 2020, at 5:32 AM, ThunderSon ***@***.***> wrote:
Hahaha I have my ways.
I believe the difference is perspective. Are you thinking in the headings to be actionable, or to help run the session? They're pretty similar. I set them as such to follow the flow in the questions asked, and not confuse the reader. What you did is flesh out what's happening.
For the tools, you may mention them by specifying clearly which are free, which are commercial, and they need to be mainstream (not a way for marketing) with proper support and traction.
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This is a buildup to the uplift of the threat modeling CS, based on issue #300 and this does not close the issue.
This PR is a starting point to add some peripherals to the CS.
The PR should be reviewed against the content in place, and not in what it could be missing.
For what is missing and needs to be done, this will be discussed in the issue mentioned.