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Ability to send funds in Multiplayer #17735

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benhbell opened this issue Feb 29, 2020 · 9 comments
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Ability to send funds in Multiplayer #17735

benhbell opened this issue Feb 29, 2020 · 9 comments
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@benhbell benhbell commented Feb 29, 2020

Motivation

In many multiplayer team games the balance of funds vs units vs research is a bit imbalanced. some players are just better at economy than others, while others are better at war. Combining these strengths is part of what makes team playing so powerful.

Players should be able to send funds to other players in multiplayer

Proposed solution

There should be a UI where a user can select a player to send funds to, enter the amount of credits, and send. A regular gameplay notification can be sent, and the credits/spice can be added to their stores. If the user does not have enough storage, then only the money the user is capable of receiving is received by the player. The rest of the money is lost.

Side effects

Since there are no voice overs for this event, users might not be aware they got money. This is also a proposed change to team dynamics. The weakest link will not always be the player with the weakest military if they have a strong ally.

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@abcdefg30 abcdefg30 commented Feb 29, 2020

Isn't that what supply trucks are for?

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@dragunoff dragunoff commented Feb 29, 2020

Isn't that what supply trucks are for?

Supply trucks are an actual unit that has to traverse the map in order to deliver the funds. The OP is talking about transferring funds behind the scenes via the UI. This feature exists in some RTS games.

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@AoAGeneral AoAGeneral commented Feb 29, 2020

The biggest side effect from this is in StarCraft 2. Where people started doing money dump strategies and building scales of units in very short times (Old school marine rush memes). This would create a rather bad disaster in team games. The bigger the team games the worst it gets.

Supply trucks is the alternative to prevent this issue from coming up while still allowing cash sending to happen.

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@pchote pchote commented Feb 29, 2020

As mentioned, this idea was considered but then rejected in favour of the supply trucks in order to have an opportunity cost on the ability to transfer funds (loss of the vehicle production queue + risk of enemy interception).

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@benhbell benhbell commented Mar 1, 2020

Ah the supply trucks aspect I great for cc, but there's no equivalent in openra dune.

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@MustaphaTR MustaphaTR commented Mar 2, 2020

In my mercenary missions and Chrono Fault, i used Turretless Combat Tanks as supply vehicles. if someone makes a fitting cameo, i think we can add them to the base mod.

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@benhbell benhbell commented Mar 2, 2020

So perhaps we are just missing a unit for Dune that can send supplies (spice) to another player?

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@MustaphaTR MustaphaTR commented Mar 2, 2020

Yes, and i think Turretless Combat Tanks fit for this purpose as the unit artwork. But someone would need to make icons for the production UI for it.
In the custom missions i mentioned they are mission units that come out of the map, so i never needed an icon for them there.

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@benhbell benhbell commented Mar 2, 2020

I can do the icon - what do I need to do to update the specs of this ticket to apply here?

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