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Spread needs fixing: e.g. Ion Cannon in TD #5120
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Ion Cannon has been a little weak lately. Increasing its spread to make it more effective. This should maybe be revisited if/when OpenRA#5120 gets looked at.
Maybe it changed with this: ecdae4c#diff-9 |
I can confirm this for the most part. I disagree about the com. centre to some extend, the regular com. centre is still destroyed by a single hit, and the advanced comm. centre couldn't be destroyed regardless of spread (Ion Cannon does a maximum damage of 900, but acc has 1200 HP). What I can confirm, though, is that an advanced com. centre does NOT receive the maximum 900 HP damage, no matter at which cell you fire. So there seems to be an issue with Spread indeed, normally a Spread value of 853 should be enough to do full damage to a 2x2 building with a standard health radius of 426. |
I take back what I said about the normal comm. centre, I just noticed that psydev filed this when Spread was at 682 instead of the 853 we have now. 682 is indeed not even enough to kill a normal comm. centre. |
This change did come from ecdae4c, but it is the old behavior that was wrong. The old calculation was forced to convert world units to pixels, which throws away a lot of precision. This used integer division, and so ranges were converted to a smaller distance. Smaller distance = more damage. The new calculation works at much higher precision. The ranges are larger, and so the applied damage is reduced (but correct). |
@pchote: sorry for bringing this up again, but I'd like to be 100% sure on this, can you confirm that health radius is factored in correctly and if yes, how exactly does it work taking the TD advanced comm. centre and ion cannon as examples? I'm asking because as far as I understand it, with a Spread value of 853 (20 pixels in td/ra) on the IonCannon weapon, when firing on any of the 4 cells of the comcentre, the Spread radius and HealthRadius (426 or 10 pixels for td/ra) should overlap and the centre should recieve 100% damage (900 hp). However, that does not appear to be the case according to my tests. I don't understand why. |
It seems that the Spread logic works a bit different in between Release and Playtest. The Ion Cannon behaves differently, for example, even though its stats have not changed. It does not do as much damage to the communications centre now, and doesn't destroy it anymore. This difference only seems to apply to some buildings, not others. The buildings which are taller (3 cells tall) like the war factory and refinery seem unaffected. But buildings which are 2 cells tall receive far less damage now (e.g. landing strip, which is 4x2; comm. centre...).
Also, I haven't precisely measured it yet, but I think I have also noticed a slight difference in how ion cannon damage spreads across units. It seems slightly less powerful.
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