Support Wikidata lexemes

[so9q]

To my knowledge this feature is missing.
Openrefine should be able to do the same as LexData. https://github.com/Nudin/LexData

[wetneb]

Indeed! Lexemes are not supported at the moment. We would be very interested to add support for this, but as far as I am aware nobody has planned to spend time working on this. If anyone is keen, I would be happy to discuss potential architectures. One first step towards this happens in Wikidata-Toolkit: Wikidata-Toolkit/Wikidata-Toolkit#437

It would be useful if you could give a few examples of the datasets you would import with OpenRefine if that feature was available. As a user, how do you expect this integration to work?

[belett]

Hi,

I would love to have a "simple" tool te edit Lexemes! (I tried LexData but my python-fu is low).

Here a simple example of a thing I want to do since a long time:

• do a query to get Lexemes with no form (since all lexemes should have at least one form) : https://w.wiki/Dg7
• maybe some cleaning and mumbo-jumbo (optional)
• paste this results as form (voilà \o/)

[wetneb]

Thanks @belett! Just to make sure I understand correctly, you would take the lemma for each lexeme without a form, and add it as a form to that lexeme? Would you add any grammatical features to them?

[belett]

Thanks @belett! Just to make sure I understand correctly, you would take the lemma for each lexeme without a form, and add it as a form to that lexeme ?

Yes.

Would you add any grammatical features to them ?

Ideally yes, but that's the mumbo-jumbo part, I'm not sure how to do it :P (probably some guessing - lemmata for noun are mostly singular - and a lot of manual checking).
Anyway, at some point, I definitely need a to add the grammatical features!

[dpriskorn]

To anyone interested in lexemes. You are welcome to contact me with tool-ideas. Today I wrote an new one because OpenRefine could not do what I wanted :)

[Auregann]

Hello there,
I just wanted to let you know that we fixed the issue that was preventing to edit Senses and statements from wbeditentity (T199896) which we hope will help tool maintainers to support Lexemes. We would of course love to see OpenRefine supporting Lexemes as it would be helpful for many Wikidata editors :)

If you have questions, issues or requests, feel free to contact me (not on this account as it's my personal one, rather at lea.lacroix@wikimedia.de) Thanks!

[thadguidry]

@wetneb Are we still blocked upstream on this? or can we remove that label? Would be nice to have a paragraph on what the current status is on this.. or better yet... Update the original comment with current state of things as we know so far.

[wetneb]

Yes, we still need Wikidata-Toolkit/Wikidata-Toolkit#437 first. And also we need some progress on #3210, which should happen as part of the Wikimedia Commons project (#2144).

[wetneb]

Removing the "blocked upstream" label since Wikidata-Toolkit does support lexeme editing now.