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Some protection abilities granted by Concerted Effort are not shown visually on creatures #327

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NARFNra opened this Issue Mar 12, 2018 · 6 comments

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NARFNra commented Mar 12, 2018

What is the expected behaviour of the card?

  • [Concerted Effort] shares the protection abilities of your creatures with all your other creatures by means of an upkeep trigger. Mistmeadow Skulk has protection from converted mana cost 3 or greater.

What is the actual behaviour of the card?

  • The abilities are granted but not written out on the card. Other unusual protection abilities like protection from multicolored, protection from instants, and protection from enchantments seem to function fine. I don't know if other cards have protection abilities that are invisibly added, but it seems likely.

Visually-unshared protections

  • specific creature-type-protections
    • kavu, beasts, rats, etc...
    • non-spirit
    • non-human
  • arcane
  • CMC 3 or greater

Visually-shared protections

  • general color protections (white, blue, black, red, green)
  • lands
  • "all colors"
  • creatures
  • enchantments
  • instants
  • sorceries
  • artifacts
  • monocolored
  • multicolored
  • legendaries (actually says "legends" on the other creature funnily enough)

Untested Protections

  • "everything"
  • colored spells
  • chosen player
  • demons

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Affects: [Concerted Effort]

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silasary commented Mar 12, 2018

Related to #4?

@stash86 stash86 changed the title [Mistmeadow Skulk] and [Spectra Ward]'s protection abilities are granted by [Concerted Effort] but not visible graphically Some protection abilities granted by Concerted Effort are not shown graphically on the creatures Mar 12, 2018

@stash86 stash86 added Graphical and removed Unclassified labels Mar 12, 2018

@stash86 stash86 added this to Needs Testing in Verification via automation Mar 12, 2018

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NARFNra commented Mar 12, 2018

Likely related to 4, I just found out that I made a minor mistake - Spectra Ward's protection ability is not shared. I could not cast Shelter because of Petrified Root-Kin's Pro instants ability. When I removed Root-Kin, and did some more testing, I was able to use Spectra Ward on creatures not enchanted with the aura, meaning they have not been given any form of pro white. So it seems some abilities exist but are not granted graphically (the mistmeadow bug) and some are simply not given at all. I have removed the Spectra Ward section.

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stash86 commented Mar 12, 2018

So we have 2 separate bug. Number 4 is for the unshared protection, and this one is for the graphical bug.

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NARFNra commented Mar 12, 2018

Some more evidence of bug being only graphical in this case, with protection ability functioning, as opposed to the other bug.
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@stash86 stash86 moved this from Needs Testing to 3.4.101.1120 in Verification Mar 12, 2018

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NARFNra commented Mar 12, 2018

I have done some more testing. It appears that all protections from creature types I've tested so far don't appear on the cards but are functional. For instance, Warren-Scourge Elf grants Protection from Goblins to all creatures you control. Even though you cannot see it as text, Fanatical Firebrand is unable to target them as it should be unable to if protection is granted. The same applies to abilities like protection from non-spirit creatures like Harbinger of Spring.

The only protection ability I've found so far that isn't granted at all by concerted effort is Spectra Ward's, which seems unique because abilities like Holy Mantle's protection from creatures are granted functionally (so it's not an aura thing) and abilities like Pristine Angel's protection from all colors are granted functionally (so it's not just a pro all colors thing), implying something's up with Spectra Ward itself. Perhaps something to do with Spectra Ward's "does not remove auras" rider?

I have also left this information at #4.

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BackAlleyG commented Mar 15, 2018

I added lists of tested protections to the original comment that either show visually or don't. Atm, I'm working on adding some more but if you don't see a specific protection on the list atm it hasn't been tested.

@BackAlleyG BackAlleyG moved this from 3.4.101.1120 to 3.4.102.2007 in Verification Mar 15, 2018

@BackAlleyG BackAlleyG changed the title Some protection abilities granted by Concerted Effort are not shown graphically on the creatures Some protection abilities granted by Concerted Effort are not shown visually on creatures Mar 15, 2018

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