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tree whole plant subcategories #626

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austinmeier opened this Issue Feb 4, 2016 · 4 comments

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austinmeier commented Feb 4, 2016

Tree scientists often measure traits of trees (whole plant PO:0000003) at different stages/sizes: seedling, sapling, herb, shrub, etc... Some of these are currently listed as synonyms to 'whole plant' and some of them are growth stages.
it might be nice to add terms to further divide the 'whole plant category'. Is there any distinction in the tree-research world that could be used to better define these new terms?

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herb
shrub
tree
etc.

These are whole plant forms and they potentially need these as stand alone terms to capture the granularity of the data. Sometimes we can see all three forms represented in different subgroups/populations, in the same genus or in the same species.

'seedling' is a stage

not sure if 'sapling' is a stage or a plant form

jaiswalp commented Feb 4, 2016

herb
shrub
tree
etc.

These are whole plant forms and they potentially need these as stand alone terms to capture the granularity of the data. Sometimes we can see all three forms represented in different subgroups/populations, in the same genus or in the same species.

'seedling' is a stage

not sure if 'sapling' is a stage or a plant form

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maxglycine Feb 4, 2016

Seedling is a stage of soybean plant development. FWIW

On Feb 4, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Pankaj Jaiswal <notifications@github.commailto:notifications@github.com> wrote:

herb
shrub
tree
etc.

These are whole plant forms and they potentially need these as stand alone terms to capture the granularity of the data. Sometimes we can see all three forms represented in different subgroups/populations, in the same genus or in the same species.

'seedling' is a stage

not sure if 'sapling' is a stage or a plant form

maxglycine commented Feb 4, 2016

Seedling is a stage of soybean plant development. FWIW

On Feb 4, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Pankaj Jaiswal <notifications@github.commailto:notifications@github.com> wrote:

herb
shrub
tree
etc.

These are whole plant forms and they potentially need these as stand alone terms to capture the granularity of the data. Sometimes we can see all three forms represented in different subgroups/populations, in the same genus or in the same species.

'seedling' is a stage

not sure if 'sapling' is a stage or a plant form

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I recommend not including these in the main PO, but rather making another small(ish) ontology for plant forms, which could be imported into PO. If folks feel strongly about keeping it in PO, it could be a new branch.

A plant growth form ontology would be useful to many.

Sapling is a stage, not a form, IMO.

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ramonawalls commented Jan 19, 2017

I recommend not including these in the main PO, but rather making another small(ish) ontology for plant forms, which could be imported into PO. If folks feel strongly about keeping it in PO, it could be a new branch.

A plant growth form ontology would be useful to many.

Sapling is a stage, not a form, IMO.

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pbuttigieg Jul 27, 2017

Greetings all - coming across this issue in ENV🌏 now, wherever it ends up, we would definitely like to use terms like shrub, tree, epiphyte, etc.

pbuttigieg commented Jul 27, 2017

Greetings all - coming across this issue in ENV🌏 now, wherever it ends up, we would definitely like to use terms like shrub, tree, epiphyte, etc.

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