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Add documentation about SOCKS connections and NetVMs #1041

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bnvk opened this Issue Jul 2, 2015 · 6 comments

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bnvk commented Jul 2, 2015

There's an increasing number of apps that make opportune use of Tor by using a SOCKS connection if a user is running TorBrowser bundle. Of course, with Qubes + TorVM this is not needed. However, apps like the Pond messaging client require Tor to work. I could install and run Tor from within the Pond AppVM, but that is undesirable since i already have a Tor NetVM.

The issue i'm having is Pond is still unaware that traffic is being routed through Tor and says "Looking for a SOCKS proxy on port 9050 or 9150"

I have read over all the docs more than once, but either i'm missing something, or perhaps some other slight documentation about this sort of thing would be helpful :)

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Whonix could help here? For example in Whonix-Workstation, TBB works out of the box without Tor over Tor. So does torchat. In Whonix-Workstation, by default there are listeners as if TBB was running and forwarding those SocksPort / ControlPort connections to the appropriate ports on Whonix-Gateway. Like to try if that works for you?

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adrelanos commented Jul 2, 2015

Whonix could help here? For example in Whonix-Workstation, TBB works out of the box without Tor over Tor. So does torchat. In Whonix-Workstation, by default there are listeners as if TBB was running and forwarding those SocksPort / ControlPort connections to the appropriate ports on Whonix-Gateway. Like to try if that works for you?

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@adrelanos thanks for the suggestion. I found a work around with my Pond config (and will add documentation). However, Whonix very well might have helped, I'm honestly a bit confused with how to use Whonix inside of Qubes and as to what end. I hope to better understand it at some point, but currently find their docs a bit cryptic.

bnvk commented Jul 2, 2015

@adrelanos thanks for the suggestion. I found a work around with my Pond config (and will add documentation). However, Whonix very well might have helped, I'm honestly a bit confused with how to use Whonix inside of Qubes and as to what end. I hope to better understand it at some point, but currently find their docs a bit cryptic.

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Yes, this all needs improvement.

FYI:
Qubes OS Project gets OTF funding to integrate Whonix, improve usability:
http://blog.invisiblethings.org/2015/06/04/otf-funding-announcement.html

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adrelanos commented Jul 3, 2015

Yes, this all needs improvement.

FYI:
Qubes OS Project gets OTF funding to integrate Whonix, improve usability:
http://blog.invisiblethings.org/2015/06/04/otf-funding-announcement.html

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@adrelanos yah, i've heard, and it is very exciting :) I'm definitely up for better understanding / helping improve Whonix + Qubes integration and UX. If you ever want to ping me on IRC or Jabber feel free!

bnvk commented Jul 7, 2015

@adrelanos yah, i've heard, and it is very exciting :) I'm definitely up for better understanding / helping improve Whonix + Qubes integration and UX. If you ever want to ping me on IRC or Jabber feel free!

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Does it still apply since #1201 ?

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marmarek commented Oct 9, 2015

Does it still apply since #1201 ?

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bnvk Oct 10, 2015

Probably not needed! Closing as such :-)

bnvk commented Oct 10, 2015

Probably not needed! Closing as such :-)

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