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Resolve package conflicts with @kde-desktop in Fedora templates #1342

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andrewdavidwong opened this Issue Oct 17, 2015 · 6 comments

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andrewdavidwong commented Oct 17, 2015

Attempting to install @kde-desktop in either the fedora-21 or fedora-21-minimal templates results in so many incompatible packages (conflicts with Qubes-specific packages) that it's not possible to do very basic things in KDE in the resulting VM, e.g., change the color scheme.

(Note: The problem seems to be worse, for some reason, in R3.0 copared to R2. In R2, for example, the KDE color scheme in Fedora-based VMs was changeable, but in R3.0 it is not.)

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The only conflict I see is firewalld. And it indeed is a intended
effect - our network scripts are not compatible with firewalld (uses
iptables directly). The dependency chain leads to bluedevil package
(through libbluedevil and firewall-config). Maybe it would be
possible to simply not install bluedevil? Not sure how deeply it is
integrated into KDE. It is listed as mandatory package in kde-desktop
group:

[user@testvm ~]$ yum groupinfo kde-desktop

Group: KDE
 Group-Id: kde-desktop
 Description: The KDE Plasma Workspaces, a highly-configurable graphical
user interface which includes a panel, desktop, system icons and desktop
widgets, and many powerful KDE applications.
 Mandatory Packages:
   +akonadi
   +akonadi-mysql
   +akregator
   +apper
   +appmenu-qt
   +baloo-file
   +bluedevil
   +cagibi
   +colord-kde
    cups-pk-helper
   +firewall-config
   +gwenview
   +initial-setup-gui
   +kaddressbook
   +kamera
   +kcalc
   +kcharselect
   +kcm-gtk
   +kcm_systemd
   +kcm_touchpad
   +kcolorchooser
   +kde-baseapps
   +kde-plasma-nm
   +kde-plasma-nm-l2tp
   +kde-plasma-nm-openconnect
   +kde-plasma-nm-openswan
   +kde-plasma-nm-openvpn
   +kde-plasma-nm-pptp
   +kde-plasma-nm-vpnc
   +kde-print-manager
   +kde-runtime
   +kde-runtime-docs
   +kde-settings-pulseaudio
   +kde-workspace
   +kdeaccessibility
   +kdegames-minimal
   +kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer
   +kdegraphics-thumbnailers
   +kdelibs
   +kdeplasma-addons
   +kdnssd
   +kget
   +kgpg
   +khelpcenter
   +kipi-plugins
   +kmail
   +kmix
   +knode
   +konsole
   +kontact
   +korganizer
   +kruler
   +kscreen
   +ksnapshot
   +ksshaskpass
   +ksysguard
   +kuser
   +kwalletmanager
   +kwebkitpart
   +kwrite
   +oxygen-gtk
   +pam-kwallet
   +phonon-backend-gstreamer
   +plasma-scriptengine-python
   +sddm
   +sddm-kcm
   +sni-qt
   +xsettings-kde
    xterm
 Default Packages:
   +k3b-extras-freeworld
 Optional Packages:
   k9copy
   kaffeine
   kmediafactory
   kplayer
 Conditional Packages:
   +gstreamer-ffmpeg
   +gstreamer-plugins-ugly
    gstreamer1-libav
   +gstreamer1-plugins-bad-freeworld
   +gstreamer1-plugins-ugly
   +libreoffice-kde
   +libtunepimp-extras-freeworld
    pinentry-qt
   +qt-at-spi
   +qt5-style-oxygen
   +socat

Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

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marmarek commented Oct 17, 2015

The only conflict I see is firewalld. And it indeed is a intended
effect - our network scripts are not compatible with firewalld (uses
iptables directly). The dependency chain leads to bluedevil package
(through libbluedevil and firewall-config). Maybe it would be
possible to simply not install bluedevil? Not sure how deeply it is
integrated into KDE. It is listed as mandatory package in kde-desktop
group:

[user@testvm ~]$ yum groupinfo kde-desktop

Group: KDE
 Group-Id: kde-desktop
 Description: The KDE Plasma Workspaces, a highly-configurable graphical
user interface which includes a panel, desktop, system icons and desktop
widgets, and many powerful KDE applications.
 Mandatory Packages:
   +akonadi
   +akonadi-mysql
   +akregator
   +apper
   +appmenu-qt
   +baloo-file
   +bluedevil
   +cagibi
   +colord-kde
    cups-pk-helper
   +firewall-config
   +gwenview
   +initial-setup-gui
   +kaddressbook
   +kamera
   +kcalc
   +kcharselect
   +kcm-gtk
   +kcm_systemd
   +kcm_touchpad
   +kcolorchooser
   +kde-baseapps
   +kde-plasma-nm
   +kde-plasma-nm-l2tp
   +kde-plasma-nm-openconnect
   +kde-plasma-nm-openswan
   +kde-plasma-nm-openvpn
   +kde-plasma-nm-pptp
   +kde-plasma-nm-vpnc
   +kde-print-manager
   +kde-runtime
   +kde-runtime-docs
   +kde-settings-pulseaudio
   +kde-workspace
   +kdeaccessibility
   +kdegames-minimal
   +kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer
   +kdegraphics-thumbnailers
   +kdelibs
   +kdeplasma-addons
   +kdnssd
   +kget
   +kgpg
   +khelpcenter
   +kipi-plugins
   +kmail
   +kmix
   +knode
   +konsole
   +kontact
   +korganizer
   +kruler
   +kscreen
   +ksnapshot
   +ksshaskpass
   +ksysguard
   +kuser
   +kwalletmanager
   +kwebkitpart
   +kwrite
   +oxygen-gtk
   +pam-kwallet
   +phonon-backend-gstreamer
   +plasma-scriptengine-python
   +sddm
   +sddm-kcm
   +sni-qt
   +xsettings-kde
    xterm
 Default Packages:
   +k3b-extras-freeworld
 Optional Packages:
   k9copy
   kaffeine
   kmediafactory
   kplayer
 Conditional Packages:
   +gstreamer-ffmpeg
   +gstreamer-plugins-ugly
    gstreamer1-libav
   +gstreamer1-plugins-bad-freeworld
   +gstreamer1-plugins-ugly
   +libreoffice-kde
   +libtunepimp-extras-freeworld
    pinentry-qt
   +qt-at-spi
   +qt5-style-oxygen
   +socat

Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

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This is what happens for me. Am I doing it wrong?

# yum install @kde-desktop --skip-broken
[...]
Packages Skipped:
    Not installed GConf2-3.2.6-11.fc21.x86_64                               
    Not installed ModemManager-glib-1.4.4-2.fc21.x86_64                     
    Not installed 1:NetworkManager-wifi-0.9.10.2-5.fc21.x86_64              
    Not installed anaconda-core-21.48.22-1.fc21.x86_64                      
    Not installed anaconda-gui-21.48.22-1.fc21.x86_64                       
    Not installed anaconda-tui-21.48.22-1.fc21.x86_64                       
    Not installed anaconda-widgets-21.48.22-1.fc21.x86_64                   
    Not installed authconfig-6.2.9-4.fc21.x86_64                            
    Not installed btrfs-progs-4.1-1.fc21.x86_64                             
    Not installed chrony-1.31.1-1.fc21.x86_64                               
    Not installed createrepo_c-0.9.0-3.fc21.x86_64                          
    Not installed createrepo_c-libs-0.9.0-3.fc21.x86_64                     
    Not installed cryptsetup-python-1.6.8-2.fc21.x86_64                     
    Not installed deltarpm-3.6-6.fc21.x86_64                                
    Not installed device-mapper-multipath-0.4.9-68.fc21.3.x86_64            
    Not installed device-mapper-multipath-libs-0.4.9-68.fc21.3.x86_64       
    Not installed device-mapper-persistent-data-0.4.1-2.fc21.x86_64         
    Not installed 1:dmidecode-2.12-8.fc21.x86_64                            
    Not installed dnf-0.6.4-7.fc21.noarch                                   
    Not installed drpm-0.2.0-2.fc21.x86_64                                  
    Not installed ebtables-2.0.10-16.fc21.x86_64                            
    Not installed fcoe-utils-1.0.29-6.fc21.x86_64                           
    Not installed firewall-config-0.3.14.2-2.fc21.noarch                    
    Not installed firewalld-0.3.14.2-2.fc21.noarch                          
    Not installed firewalld-config-standard-0.3.14.2-2.fc21.noarch          
    Not installed firewalld-filesystem-0.3.14.2-2.fc21.noarch               
    Not installed fros-1.0-5.fc21.noarch                                    
    Not installed geoclue2-2.1.10-2.fc21.x86_64                             
    Not installed glade-libs-3.18.3-4.fc21.x86_64                           
    Not installed harfbuzz-icu-0.9.36-1.fc21.x86_64                         
    Not installed hfsplus-tools-540.1.linux3-9.fc21.x86_64                  
    Not installed initial-setup-0.3.25-1.fc21.x86_64                        
    Not installed initial-setup-gui-0.3.25-1.fc21.x86_64                    
    Not installed 1:isomd5sum-1.0.12-3.fc21.x86_64                          
    Not installed kbd-2.0.2-3.fc21.x86_64                                   
    Not installed kbd-legacy-2.0.2-3.fc21.noarch                            
    Not installed kbd-misc-2.0.2-3.fc21.noarch                              
    Not installed keybinder3-0.3.0-4.fc21.x86_64                            
    Not installed langtable-0.0.29-1.fc21.noarch                            
    Not installed langtable-data-0.0.29-1.fc21.noarch                       
    Not installed langtable-python-0.0.29-1.fc21.noarch                     
    Not installed libcomps-0.1.6-14.fc21.x86_64                             
    Not installed libconfig-1.4.9-7.fc21.x86_64                             
    Not installed libgnomekbd-3.6.0-6.fc21.x86_64                           
    Not installed libhbaapi-2.2.9-6.fc21.x86_64                             
    Not installed libhbalinux-1.0.16-5.fc21.x86_64                          
    Not installed libreport-anaconda-2.3.0-9.fc21.x86_64                    
    Not installed libreport-cli-2.3.0-9.fc21.x86_64                         
    Not installed libreport-gtk-2.3.0-9.fc21.x86_64                         
    Not installed libreport-plugin-bugzilla-2.3.0-9.fc21.x86_64             
    Not installed libreport-plugin-reportuploader-2.3.0-9.fc21.x86_64       
    Not installed libreport-web-2.3.0-9.fc21.x86_64                         
    Not installed libselinux-python-2.3-10.fc21.x86_64                      
    Not installed libtar-1.2.20-5.fc21.x86_64                               
    Not installed libtimezonemap-0.4.2-4.fc21.x86_64                        
    Not installed libuser-python-0.62-1.fc21.x86_64                         
    Not installed libxklavier-5.4-4.fc21.x86_64                             
    Not installed lldpad-0.9.46-8.git48a5f38.fc21.x86_64                    
    Not installed llvm-libs-3.5.0-6.fc21.x86_64                             
    Not installed lsof-4.87-5.fc21.x86_64                                   
    Not installed lvm2-2.02.116-3.fc21.x86_64                               
    Not installed lvm2-libs-2.02.116-3.fc21.x86_64                          
    Not installed mesa-dri-drivers-10.4.7-2.20150323.fc21.x86_64            
    Not installed mesa-filesystem-10.4.7-2.20150323.fc21.x86_64             
    Not installed newt-0.52.18-1.fc21.x86_64                                
    Not installed newt-python-0.52.18-1.fc21.x86_64                         
    Not installed openssh-6.6.1p1-16.fc21.x86_64                            
    Not installed openssh-clients-6.6.1p1-16.fc21.x86_64                    
    Not installed passwd-0.79-5.fc21.x86_64                                 
    Not installed psmisc-22.21-5.fc21.x86_64                                
    Not installed pycairo-1.10.0-1.fc21.x86_64                              
    Not installed pygobject3-3.14.0-1.fc21.x86_64                           
    Not installed pykickstart-1.99.65-2.fc21.noarch                         
    Not installed 1:pyparted-3.10.4-1.fc21.x86_64                           
    Not installed python-IPy-0.81-12.fc21.noarch                            
    Not installed python-backports-1.0-5.fc21.x86_64                        
    Not installed python-backports-ssl_match_hostname-3.4.0.2-4.fc21.noarch 
    Not installed 1:python-blivet-0.61.15-1.fc21.noarch                     
    Not installed python-chardet-2.2.1-2.fc21.noarch                        
    Not installed python-coverage-3.7-4.fc21.x86_64                         
    Not installed python-decorator-3.4.0-5.fc21.noarch                      
    Not installed python-di-0.3-4.fc21.noarch                               
    Not installed python-firewall-0.3.14.2-2.fc21.noarch                    
    Not installed python-hawkey-0.5.3-2.fc21.x86_64                         
    Not installed python-kitchen-1.2.1-2.fc21.noarch                        
    Not installed python-libcomps-0.1.6-14.fc21.x86_64                      
    Not installed python-librepo-1.7.13-1.fc21.x86_64                       
    Not installed python-meh-0.32-3.fc21.noarch                             
    Not installed python-meh-gui-0.32-3.fc21.noarch                         
    Not installed python-nss-0.16.0-0.fc21.x86_64                           
    Not installed python-ntplib-0.3.2-3.fc21.noarch                         
    Not installed python-pwquality-1.2.4-3.fc21.x86_64                      
    Not installed python-pyblock-0.53-8.fc21.x86_64                         
    Not installed python-setuptools-2.0-8.fc21.noarch                       
    Not installed python-slip-0.6.4-1.fc21.noarch                           
    Not installed python-slip-dbus-0.6.4-1.fc21.noarch                      
    Not installed python-xpyb-1.3.1-4.fc21.x86_64                           
    Not installed pytz-2012d-7.fc21.noarch                                  
    Not installed realmd-0.15.2-2.fc21.x86_64                               
    Not installed rpm-plugin-systemd-inhibit-4.12.0.1-7.fc21.x86_64         
    Not installed rsync-3.1.1-3.fc21.x86_64                                 
    Not installed slang-2.2.4-13.fc21.x86_64                                
    Not installed tigervnc-license-1.4.3-3.fc21.noarch                      
    Not installed tigervnc-server-minimal-1.4.3-3.fc21.x86_64               
    Not installed usermode-1.111-6.fc21.x86_64                              
    Not installed webkitgtk3-2.4.9-2.fc21.x86_64                            
    Not installed 1:wpa_supplicant-2.0-14.fc21.x86_64                       
    Not installed xmlrpc-c-1.32.5-1906.svn2451.fc21.x86_64                  
    Not installed xmlrpc-c-client-1.32.5-1906.svn2451.fc21.x86_64           
    Not installed 1:yelp-3.14.2-1.fc21.x86_64                               
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    Not installed yelp-xsl-3.14.0-2.fc21.noarch                             
    Not installed yum-utils-1.1.31-27.fc21.noarch
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andrewdavidwong commented Oct 17, 2015

This is what happens for me. Am I doing it wrong?

# yum install @kde-desktop --skip-broken
[...]
Packages Skipped:
    Not installed GConf2-3.2.6-11.fc21.x86_64                               
    Not installed ModemManager-glib-1.4.4-2.fc21.x86_64                     
    Not installed 1:NetworkManager-wifi-0.9.10.2-5.fc21.x86_64              
    Not installed anaconda-core-21.48.22-1.fc21.x86_64                      
    Not installed anaconda-gui-21.48.22-1.fc21.x86_64                       
    Not installed anaconda-tui-21.48.22-1.fc21.x86_64                       
    Not installed anaconda-widgets-21.48.22-1.fc21.x86_64                   
    Not installed authconfig-6.2.9-4.fc21.x86_64                            
    Not installed btrfs-progs-4.1-1.fc21.x86_64                             
    Not installed chrony-1.31.1-1.fc21.x86_64                               
    Not installed createrepo_c-0.9.0-3.fc21.x86_64                          
    Not installed createrepo_c-libs-0.9.0-3.fc21.x86_64                     
    Not installed cryptsetup-python-1.6.8-2.fc21.x86_64                     
    Not installed deltarpm-3.6-6.fc21.x86_64                                
    Not installed device-mapper-multipath-0.4.9-68.fc21.3.x86_64            
    Not installed device-mapper-multipath-libs-0.4.9-68.fc21.3.x86_64       
    Not installed device-mapper-persistent-data-0.4.1-2.fc21.x86_64         
    Not installed 1:dmidecode-2.12-8.fc21.x86_64                            
    Not installed dnf-0.6.4-7.fc21.noarch                                   
    Not installed drpm-0.2.0-2.fc21.x86_64                                  
    Not installed ebtables-2.0.10-16.fc21.x86_64                            
    Not installed fcoe-utils-1.0.29-6.fc21.x86_64                           
    Not installed firewall-config-0.3.14.2-2.fc21.noarch                    
    Not installed firewalld-0.3.14.2-2.fc21.noarch                          
    Not installed firewalld-config-standard-0.3.14.2-2.fc21.noarch          
    Not installed firewalld-filesystem-0.3.14.2-2.fc21.noarch               
    Not installed fros-1.0-5.fc21.noarch                                    
    Not installed geoclue2-2.1.10-2.fc21.x86_64                             
    Not installed glade-libs-3.18.3-4.fc21.x86_64                           
    Not installed harfbuzz-icu-0.9.36-1.fc21.x86_64                         
    Not installed hfsplus-tools-540.1.linux3-9.fc21.x86_64                  
    Not installed initial-setup-0.3.25-1.fc21.x86_64                        
    Not installed initial-setup-gui-0.3.25-1.fc21.x86_64                    
    Not installed 1:isomd5sum-1.0.12-3.fc21.x86_64                          
    Not installed kbd-2.0.2-3.fc21.x86_64                                   
    Not installed kbd-legacy-2.0.2-3.fc21.noarch                            
    Not installed kbd-misc-2.0.2-3.fc21.noarch                              
    Not installed keybinder3-0.3.0-4.fc21.x86_64                            
    Not installed langtable-0.0.29-1.fc21.noarch                            
    Not installed langtable-data-0.0.29-1.fc21.noarch                       
    Not installed langtable-python-0.0.29-1.fc21.noarch                     
    Not installed libcomps-0.1.6-14.fc21.x86_64                             
    Not installed libconfig-1.4.9-7.fc21.x86_64                             
    Not installed libgnomekbd-3.6.0-6.fc21.x86_64                           
    Not installed libhbaapi-2.2.9-6.fc21.x86_64                             
    Not installed libhbalinux-1.0.16-5.fc21.x86_64                          
    Not installed libreport-anaconda-2.3.0-9.fc21.x86_64                    
    Not installed libreport-cli-2.3.0-9.fc21.x86_64                         
    Not installed libreport-gtk-2.3.0-9.fc21.x86_64                         
    Not installed libreport-plugin-bugzilla-2.3.0-9.fc21.x86_64             
    Not installed libreport-plugin-reportuploader-2.3.0-9.fc21.x86_64       
    Not installed libreport-web-2.3.0-9.fc21.x86_64                         
    Not installed libselinux-python-2.3-10.fc21.x86_64                      
    Not installed libtar-1.2.20-5.fc21.x86_64                               
    Not installed libtimezonemap-0.4.2-4.fc21.x86_64                        
    Not installed libuser-python-0.62-1.fc21.x86_64                         
    Not installed libxklavier-5.4-4.fc21.x86_64                             
    Not installed lldpad-0.9.46-8.git48a5f38.fc21.x86_64                    
    Not installed llvm-libs-3.5.0-6.fc21.x86_64                             
    Not installed lsof-4.87-5.fc21.x86_64                                   
    Not installed lvm2-2.02.116-3.fc21.x86_64                               
    Not installed lvm2-libs-2.02.116-3.fc21.x86_64                          
    Not installed mesa-dri-drivers-10.4.7-2.20150323.fc21.x86_64            
    Not installed mesa-filesystem-10.4.7-2.20150323.fc21.x86_64             
    Not installed newt-0.52.18-1.fc21.x86_64                                
    Not installed newt-python-0.52.18-1.fc21.x86_64                         
    Not installed openssh-6.6.1p1-16.fc21.x86_64                            
    Not installed openssh-clients-6.6.1p1-16.fc21.x86_64                    
    Not installed passwd-0.79-5.fc21.x86_64                                 
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    Not installed pycairo-1.10.0-1.fc21.x86_64                              
    Not installed pygobject3-3.14.0-1.fc21.x86_64                           
    Not installed pykickstart-1.99.65-2.fc21.noarch                         
    Not installed 1:pyparted-3.10.4-1.fc21.x86_64                           
    Not installed python-IPy-0.81-12.fc21.noarch                            
    Not installed python-backports-1.0-5.fc21.x86_64                        
    Not installed python-backports-ssl_match_hostname-3.4.0.2-4.fc21.noarch 
    Not installed 1:python-blivet-0.61.15-1.fc21.noarch                     
    Not installed python-chardet-2.2.1-2.fc21.noarch                        
    Not installed python-coverage-3.7-4.fc21.x86_64                         
    Not installed python-decorator-3.4.0-5.fc21.noarch                      
    Not installed python-di-0.3-4.fc21.noarch                               
    Not installed python-firewall-0.3.14.2-2.fc21.noarch                    
    Not installed python-hawkey-0.5.3-2.fc21.x86_64                         
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    Not installed python-libcomps-0.1.6-14.fc21.x86_64                      
    Not installed python-librepo-1.7.13-1.fc21.x86_64                       
    Not installed python-meh-0.32-3.fc21.noarch                             
    Not installed python-meh-gui-0.32-3.fc21.noarch                         
    Not installed python-nss-0.16.0-0.fc21.x86_64                           
    Not installed python-ntplib-0.3.2-3.fc21.noarch                         
    Not installed python-pwquality-1.2.4-3.fc21.x86_64                      
    Not installed python-pyblock-0.53-8.fc21.x86_64                         
    Not installed python-setuptools-2.0-8.fc21.noarch                       
    Not installed python-slip-0.6.4-1.fc21.noarch                           
    Not installed python-slip-dbus-0.6.4-1.fc21.noarch                      
    Not installed python-xpyb-1.3.1-4.fc21.x86_64                           
    Not installed pytz-2012d-7.fc21.noarch                                  
    Not installed realmd-0.15.2-2.fc21.x86_64                               
    Not installed rpm-plugin-systemd-inhibit-4.12.0.1-7.fc21.x86_64         
    Not installed rsync-3.1.1-3.fc21.x86_64                                 
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The only conflict I see is firewalld. And it indeed is a intended effect - our network scripts are not compatible with firewalld (uses iptables directly).

Is it necessary to have this package in every Qubes VM, even non-Net/ProxyVMs which use no firewall rules?

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The only conflict I see is firewalld. And it indeed is a intended effect - our network scripts are not compatible with firewalld (uses iptables directly).

Is it necessary to have this package in every Qubes VM, even non-Net/ProxyVMs which use no firewall rules?

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On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 04:36:59PM -0700, Axon wrote:

The only conflict I see is firewalld. And it indeed is a intended effect - our network scripts are not compatible with firewalld (uses iptables directly).

Is it necessary to have this package in every Qubes VM, even non-Net/ProxyVMs which use no firewall rules?

The point is that we intentionally block installation of firewalld,
not the other way around. And apparently KDE (indirectly) requires it.
And BTW every VM have some firewall rules, at least in INPUT chain.

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

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marmarek commented Oct 17, 2015

On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 04:36:59PM -0700, Axon wrote:

The only conflict I see is firewalld. And it indeed is a intended effect - our network scripts are not compatible with firewalld (uses iptables directly).

Is it necessary to have this package in every Qubes VM, even non-Net/ProxyVMs which use no firewall rules?

The point is that we intentionally block installation of firewalld,
not the other way around. And apparently KDE (indirectly) requires it.
And BTW every VM have some firewall rules, at least in INPUT chain.

Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

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The point is that we intentionally block installation of firewalld, not the other way around. And apparently KDE (indirectly) requires it.

Right, sorry.

And BTW every VM have some firewall rules, at least in INPUT chain.

Ok.

So, is there any way for me to install all the "skipped" packages from the long list above?

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andrewdavidwong commented Oct 17, 2015

The point is that we intentionally block installation of firewalld, not the other way around. And apparently KDE (indirectly) requires it.

Right, sorry.

And BTW every VM have some firewall rules, at least in INPUT chain.

Ok.

So, is there any way for me to install all the "skipped" packages from the long list above?

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On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 04:54:53PM -0700, Axon wrote:

So, is there any way for me to install all the "skipped" packages from the long list above?

I'd try installing KDE without bluedevil. I'm afraid this would need to
manually list all but that package from the kde-desktop group...

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

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marmarek commented Oct 18, 2015

On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 04:54:53PM -0700, Axon wrote:

So, is there any way for me to install all the "skipped" packages from the long list above?

I'd try installing KDE without bluedevil. I'm afraid this would need to
manually list all but that package from the kde-desktop group...

Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

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