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Screen blanks while computer is in use, but user input can redraw the screen #2399
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Possibly related screen issue: https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/e3e25398-c2c5-4202-9702-ee5e8e76ec02%40googlegroups.com |
Thanks for the screenshot, @zby. That's helpful. |
I have to report the same problem. First it was the xlockmore which I deleted off the system and it just switched to another screen lock program. Its blanking the dual monitor system but not actually locking anything. I have been turning off and deactivating and even removing all screen lock/saver programs but nothing seems to help. If i use the desktop pager it forces a refresh and clears the screen, momentarily, and it just blanks it again in about five seconds. Moving any graphic components or the mouse clear the screen where it gets redrawn, which is why the pager works becaus that forces a complete refresh. I play whack-a-mole for a while, and it's ok for a while, and then its back again, over and over. Just writing this note it blanked about ten times or more. Often I can't even clear the screen fast enough to keep up. |
@andrewdavidwong I no longer experience this issue, was it solved? |
@e5f3c2ea895af0f27667: I'm not aware of any specific fix for this. Perhaps as a byproduct of something else? |
I read your comment this morning and I was going to respond and say I had
not seen this in a while, but then it just happened once just a few minutes
ago. What I was doing at the time was editing in my fedora-24 template VM
and exploring dnf package exclusion configuration, and was inactive in that
template vm for a few minutes while reading some dnf documentation in a vm
that has internet access enabled.
My suspicion is that some screen saver in one or more VM's (e.g. fedora-24)
goes into screen-saver mode and somehow sends the blanking "image" through
to the Qubes GUI for display, but is not then capable of actually locking
the physical screen/keyboard, because its dom0 that has that
responsibility. I don't have sufficient knowledge of the qubes/Xen
architecture to chase that sequence of events but attached the fc24
template vm log file in case you might notice something funny. It has not
happened since I shut down that specific vm (normally it repeats many
times), and I will be paying more attention to this/any association going
forward.
I did have several other vms based on that template open without any issue
for weeks at a time, but it may be that installing some software in that
template vm set up some service that does not run in the vms using that
template. Lately I have been forced to get creative with installing
software generically in the template but having only certain targeted vm's
running that software.
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After not have it happening for 45min to 1 hr I opened up that template and
started grepping the logs in the vm for string patterns having anything to
do with screen locking and darned if it didn't happen within a few minutes,
and the vm was not even idle at the time. Not sure what to think now. It
may be confirmation bias but I still suspect an association with that vm
for some reason. I didn't find any incriminating evidence before I had to
shut it down again. No problems since, but I'll wait a while and see.
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Steve Coleman <stevenlcoleman42@gmail.com>
wrote:
… I read your comment this morning and I was going to respond and say I had
not seen this in a while, but then it just happened once just a few minutes
ago. What I was doing at the time was editing in my fedora-24 template VM
and exploring dnf package exclusion configuration, and was inactive in that
template vm for a few minutes while reading some dnf documentation in a vm
that has internet access enabled.
My suspicion is that some screen saver in one or more VM's (e.g.
fedora-24) goes into screen-saver mode and somehow sends the blanking
"image" through to the Qubes GUI for display, but is not then capable of
actually locking the physical screen/keyboard, because its dom0 that has
that responsibility. I don't have sufficient knowledge of the qubes/Xen
architecture to chase that sequence of events but attached the fc24
template vm log file in case you might notice something funny. It has not
happened since I shut down that specific vm (normally it repeats many
times), and I will be paying more attention to this/any association going
forward.
I did have several other vms based on that template open without any issue
for weeks at a time, but it may be that installing some software in that
template vm set up some service that does not run in the vms using that
template. Lately I have been forced to get creative with installing
software generically in the template but having only certain targeted vm's
running that software.
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> aware of any specific fix for this. Perhaps as a byproduct of something
> else?
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@andrewdavidwong @StevenLColeman42 Strangely enough, I noticed the issue again today (it happened only once). |
Recently it indeed somehow diminished - but not vanished. I noticed that a sure way to trigger it is to watch videos or have lots of windows (for example small chat windows) that are frequently popping up and being deleted. |
This issue seems to be related to the PrintScreen key. I can change/clear content of that "pop-up" screen by pressing PrintScreen multiple times, each time with mouse cursor on different monitor. BTW: This might be relevant: I'm using two monitors, rotated left by 90, radeon driver. |
I think your printscreen method is just causing a screen refresh, which any
form of which temporarily fixes the display, for the moment. I have
personally never uesd the printscreen key for anything, so it cant be the
source of the problem but perhaps a way to clear the screen.
I have noticed that closing a VM sometimes fixes my problem, but guessing
which is harder, so it might seem to be a program is not playing nice with
the Xen/Qubes display driver. My suspicion is on Java because its usually
running in an open VM whenever I see the problem, but I don't have a clue
what it might specifically do to cause this. I'll have to find a way to do
a system trace all the suspected jvm's when it happens the next time just
to see what they are doing.
Mine is also dual monitor for what it is worth.
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This issue seems to be related to the PrintScreen key. I can change/clear
content of that "pop-up" screen by pressing PrintScreen multiple times,
each time with mouse cursor on different monitor.
BTW: This might be relevant: I'm using two monitors, rotated left by 90,
radeon driver.
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It started again... When I play with the "File" menu in Libreoffice in my current Disp2 VM, the system 100% reliably kicks right into this xlock blank screen saver, thus displaying the .xlockrc "text" file from my Dom0 environment. I can play with other VM's app menus without any problem, which is how I am able to write this. In the mean time Dom0 'xdg-screensaver status' returns 'disabled', and other fairly random movement on the cursor over apps sometimes causes the Dom0 xlock screensaver to kick in. No screensaver apps even exist in any of my VM templates. After shutting down all VM's except Disp2, and the one I am writing this email from, the screensaver mayhem has stopped. Oddly if I open the Libreoffice file menu that was giving me the initial problem and then switch desktops that same file menu appears on whatever desktop I am on without the Libraoffice app window attached. This Disp2 VM was originally spawned from my email VM when opening a verifiable valid document attachment and had been sitting there quietly for several hours while I tended to other business. |
I have the same issue, and also the same screen as the posted screenshot, its quite annoying... It doesnt seem to have anything to do with the graphics driver tho, i've got the same thing on two different gpu's. |
This seems very weird. An ltrace of the gui-agent, gui-daemon, and dom0 x server while experiencing this weird behavior might shed some light on what's going on. Also, I'm curious if there's a correlation between experiencing this issue and your system (dom0 and/or restored backups of templates) being upgraded from pre-r3.2-release vs being a fresh install. |
I've always been on R3.2 on both my old and new rig. But I think I found something. I've disabled compositing in Settings>Window Manager Tweaks>Compositor. SInce then I've not seen the xscreensaver screen pop up on me. I've got many windows open with animating gifs etc, trying to trigger the issue, and then I run yumex in dom0. With compositing on it gives me garbled screens of other apps (but not the xscreensaver screen), and when I disable compositing, everything displays as normal. I'm not sure what to do now... I would love it if somebody else could confirm that disabling compositing fixes it, but a bug in the compositor somehow doesn't seem like an odd place for this kind of bug? If there is something I can do I'd be happy to help. |
Yeah - switching off composing seems to work for me. I waited for the problem to happen then switched it off and it disappeared - this is not definitive - because it sometimes disappear with any screen operation, but the probability is high. opalraava thanks a lot! |
Thanks for the confirmation zby :o) I'm currently trying if the bug stays away if I keep the compositor enabled, but disable all the 'drop shadow' settings in the compositor settings tab, but that's just trying to dig a bit deeper. I found a page on the Archwiki where they talk about similar kinds of bugs, and that you can start xfwm with a --compositor=off parameter. I'm not sure if this is a Qubes issue, I mean I can't imagine we have anything to do with compositors. |
Way I found to replicate this issue: start many applications in many VMs, and then suspend your computer multiple times. |
Started happening again, but differently. I had several VM's open and had
done some USB drive attachments for doing some big downloads since I kept
running out of disk space. Not sure if that matters but just for
completeness. I was not doing much otherwise at the time.
This time the behavior is quite different! I'm not even seeing the
screensaver this time, but rather an image of my virtual desktop1 as it was
several days ago for a long period of time! My screen will just get
overlayed with display image data that is stored in memory some where, and
I can switch or move controls to bring back my current virutal desktop.
The image of the screensaver we were seeing is simply just old display data
sitting around that apparently gets redrawn periodically over the active
display. This is why it was not actually locking the keyboard and thus
permitted refreshing/redrawing the active display to bring back the active
desktop image. Looking for problems in the screen saver proper was likely
just a distraction, but it was common across all our problem reports
because statistically the screen saver is in memory for a good of the time
on average and therefore it was statistically significant across problem
reports.
Steve Coleman
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Have you disabled the compositor? (Settings>Window Manager Tweaks>Compositor) |
I do remember having rectangles of stale content in 3.1 with KDE. Never happened for me in 3.2 w/ Xfce though. |
No, I have been meaning to look into that but was needing to get some
things done first. I'll try that monday.
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Have you disabled the compositor? (Settings>Window Manager
Tweaks>Compositor)
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My machine was acting up again this morning, and deactivating the
compositor immediately stopped the screen overwrites. Only one text editor
window I had still up retained a black border around it, but otherwise the
system settled down. I'm going to reboot the system for good measure but I
predict that the problem is likely gone.
It just happened that today it was the system menu that was triggering the
overwrite problem, so getting to the menu entry to deactivate the
compositor was challenging, but it seems to have done the trick.
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Hey, I am getting mad with this issue today. I can say that I killed the xscreensaver process (in dom0) and the issue is still happening. I'm on an up-to-date R3.2. I have a second display attached to my laptop, using both side-by-side. In the screenshot you can see the unlock dialog from xscreensaver, along with some rectangles with the stuff that has refreshed on the open windows. But if xsreensaver is not running, who is painting the X root window? It should not be something that can be triggered from an appVM. |
Pablo, look at the previous discussions on how to turn off the compositor
in the window manager. The compositor appears to be responsible for
overwriting the screen with old video data. The screensaver image you see
is just old graphic data that keeps being copied to your display. After
turning off my compositor I have not had this issue since.
The compositor code should be fixed, but for the user turning this setting
off will solve their immediate problem.
Steve
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Hey, I am getting mad with this issue today.
I can say that I killed the xscreensaver process and the issue is still
happening.
After that, I still experience the issue. After it happens, I can confirm
the xscreensaver process is still gone (it has not been restarted).
I'm on an up-to-date R3.2.
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Hey, thanks Steve! For the record, in R3.2 with default XFCE destop, the compositor settings can be found under Qubes Menu > System Tools > Window Manager Tweaks, in the "Compositor" tab. |
(with enabled compositor) the issue is occurring more often if there is high CPU & disk load ... for example every 3 seconds |
If the problem is in the compositor, it might work to toggle more detailed settings in the compositor settings and perhaps pin down in what subsystem of the compositor the bug is? |
This seems to be a reliable way to trigger this issue.
Maybe some windows manger styles will not trigger this issue... |
This issue is happening for me as well. What is interesting is that it only started happening once I installed a second video card in my workstation. I have been using Qubes for only a few weeks but in that time I did not ever have an issue until the day after I added a second card. I have an HP Z820 with an nVidia Quadro 5000. With only that video card installed, everything works well. But the Quadro only supports two monitors and I have three. The problem started happening the day after I added an additional video card to utilize my third monitor. I had an old Radeon HD5570 lying around. That's the supplemental card I tried first. It worked several hours in my work day but it starting having issues late in the afternoon and these issues made the system unusable because it was blanking the screen every few seconds. I had to uninstall the supplemental card to keep working. I was suspicious of the HD5570. It was in a parts box and I was not sure if it worked. I had tried a different card in the same box and it didn't work at all. So I thought the issue was with my video card. I bought a Radeon Pro WX 2100 card to use as a supplemental card. That was on Wednesday night. It worked fine for a couple of days but today it started doing the same screen blanking thing. I deliberately chose a Radeon card because it was aligned with the Qubes hardware recommendations. But now that I am sitting here writing this and realizing that both cards that failed are Radeon cards, maybe that is the source of the issue. I may exchange the Radeon Pro WX 2100 for another nVidia based card to see if it improves things. The system requirements favour AMD over nVidia but that contradicts my direct experience. It's not conclusive but it's grounds for further study. With the compositor disabled everything works well (so far - it's only been a few minutes but it seems like it will work). I tried enabling the compositor but disabling the options underneath ... nothing helped other than disabling the compositor entirely. On the plus side having the compositor disabled seems to make video playback more smooth. @StevenLColeman42 thank you for communicating that disabling the compositor fixes this issue. It was driving me nuts. |
Qubes OS version (e.g.,
R3.1
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Description:
Issue separately reported by two users:
Gaijin wrote:
On 2016-10-26 05:43, John Maher wrote:
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