Can't delete VM created by backup restore process (qvm-remove refuses)

[BobSchnatt]

Qubes OS version:

Qubes release 4.0 (R4.0)

Affected component(s):

A VM I'm trying to delete.

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Steps to reproduce the behavior:

Restore a VM that still exists in the system from a backup file. (In other words, I screwed up
changes to the debian-9 template VM, so I used the restore process to overwrite the existing
debian-9 template.) I later realized that this caused Qubes to clone the original debian-9 VM to a new
one called debian-91.
Use the Qube Manager to delete this older VM (debian-91).

Expected behavior:

I expect the the domain (VM) to be deleted.

Actual behavior:

I get an error from the Qube Manager:
"ERROR: VM installed by package manager"

General notes:

I tried using the qvm-remove command to delete this VM (with and without the sudo command, and with
and without the --force option), but the results were the same. In the terminal, the message is:
"Error: VM installed by package manager"

I actually have 2 of these VM clones on my system that I can't get rid of. Both VMs are templates, they are not attached to network VMs and they are not the basis of DispVMs.
Help!

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Related issues:

[marmarek]

Restoring backup never override existing VMs - debian-91 is actually the one you've restored. You can see it in restore operation summary (just before confirming it).

See here for details how to handle templates installed by default (including reinstalling it, or removing).

[marmarek]

Restoring backup never override existing VMs - debian-91 is actually the one you've restored. You can see it in restore operation summary (just before confirming it).

See here for details how to handle templates installed by default (including reinstalling it, or removing).

[marmarek]

Also, please use qubes-users mailing list for generic questions.

[marmarek]

Also, please use qubes-users mailing list for generic questions.

[BobSchnatt]

Thank you. Clearly, I couldn't have made it plainer that I'm a newbie unless I took out a full page ad in the NY Times :) Appreciate the help...

[BobSchnatt]

Thank you. Clearly, I couldn't have made it plainer that I'm a newbie unless I took out a full page ad in the NY Times :) Appreciate the help...

[BobSchnatt]

I still have the original problem. I changed all my AppVMs to point to debian-92, but I still get that same error message when I try to delete debian-9 or debian-91. (I now have ZERO AppVMs or DispVMs pointing to debian-9 or debian-91, and neither of those VMs are running.) I'll move any future problems to the newsgroup you mentioned, but could you help me resolve this? I would really appreciate it!

[BobSchnatt]

I still have the original problem. I changed all my AppVMs to point to debian-92, but I still get that same error message when I try to delete debian-9 or debian-91. (I now have ZERO AppVMs or DispVMs pointing to debian-9 or debian-91, and neither of those VMs are running.) I'll move any future problems to the newsgroup you mentioned, but could you help me resolve this? I would really appreciate it!

[BobSchnatt]

Here's the solution: In Dom0, type qvm-prefs debian-91 installed_by_rpm false. After that change, I was allowed to delete the VM. Thanks again. Like I said, I'll move all future issues to the newsgroup you mention. Thanks for all you guys do. Qubes is nice :)

[BobSchnatt]

Here's the solution: In Dom0, type qvm-prefs debian-91 installed_by_rpm false. After that change, I was allowed to delete the VM. Thanks again. Like I said, I'll move all future issues to the newsgroup you mention. Thanks for all you guys do. Qubes is nice :)