pulseaudio-qubes needs an update for PulseAudio 12.0 in Fedora 28 #4072

mattmccutchen · Jul 12, 2018

Fedora 28 has updated to PulseAudio 12 yesterday (update entry). pulseaudio-qubes currently has a dependency on PulseAudio 11.1 and needs an update to match. I didn't find any previous discussion on qubes-users or qubes-devel.

Qubes OS version:

4.0

Affected component(s):

pulseaudio-qubes

Steps to reproduce the behavior:

dnf distro-sync --best

Expected behavior:

Successful update.

Actual behavior:

Error: 
 Problem 1: package pulseaudio-qubes-4.0.10-1.fc28.x86_64 requires pulseaudio = 11.1, but none of the providers can be installed
  - cannot install both pulseaudio-11.1-18.fc28.x86_64 and pulseaudio-12.0-3.fc28.x86_64
  - cannot install the best update candidate for package pulseaudio-qubes-4.0.10-1.fc28.x86_64
  - cannot install the best update candidate for package pulseaudio-11.1-18.fc28.1.x86_64
  - pulseaudio-11.1-18.fc28.1.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade repository
 Problem 2: problem with installed package pulseaudio-qubes-4.0.10-1.fc28.x86_64
  - package pulseaudio-qubes-4.0.10-1.fc28.x86_64 requires pulseaudio = 11.1, but none of the providers can be installed
  - package pulseaudio-11.1-18.fc28.x86_64 requires libpulsecommon-11.1.so()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed
  - cannot install both pulseaudio-libs-11.1-18.fc28.x86_64 and pulseaudio-libs-12.0-3.fc28.x86_64
  - package pulseaudio-11.1-18.fc28.1.x86_64 requires pulseaudio-libs(x86-64) = 11.1-18.fc28.1, but none of the providers can be installed
  - cannot install the best update candidate for package pulseaudio-libs-11.1-18.fc28.1.x86_64
  - pulseaudio-libs-11.1-18.fc28.1.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade repository

General notes:

Related issues:

Related: QubesOS/qubes-gui-agent-linux#44 - waiting for @arjan-s to sign the commit.

// imagine here a rant about Fedora putting major, potentially incompatible changes, into a stable release, instead of putting it only to devel branch, which will be released only few months from now anyway

marmarek · Jul 12, 2018

Related: QubesOS/qubes-gui-agent-linux#44 - waiting for @arjan-s to sign the commit.

// imagine here a rant about Fedora putting major, potentially incompatible changes, into a stable release, instead of putting it only to devel branch, which will be released only few months from now anyway

i think there is now the issuse on Fedora27 templates...

akkuladezeit · Jul 14, 2018

i think there is now the issuse on Fedora27 templates...

i think there is now the issuse on Fedora27 templates...

Indeed, it seems the imaginary rant can be extended now after they now also included it in fedora-27 stable repo's as well :')

I wonder, how come the fedora developers did the same to fedora-27, don't they actually observe their own updates i.e. in fedora-28, before doing the same to fedora-27 (especially since there was a delay between the 27/28 update)? Broken autoremoval dependencies, failed updates due to wrong dependencies, and also (as far as I can tell) weak security in the updating process from man in the middle attacks? It does kind of give the feeling the fedora developers aren't taking reliability and security very seriously. But then again, what do I know, I don't have that kind of insight after all :)

Aekez · Jul 14, 2018

i think there is now the issuse on Fedora27 templates...

Indeed, it seems the imaginary rant can be extended now after they now also included it in fedora-27 stable repo's as well :')

I wonder, how come the fedora developers did the same to fedora-27, don't they actually observe their own updates i.e. in fedora-28, before doing the same to fedora-27 (especially since there was a delay between the 27/28 update)? Broken autoremoval dependencies, failed updates due to wrong dependencies, and also (as far as I can tell) weak security in the updating process from man in the middle attacks? It does kind of give the feeling the fedora developers aren't taking reliability and security very seriously. But then again, what do I know, I don't have that kind of insight after all :)

when it will be fix? or how can i fix it XD?

akkuladezeit · Jul 15, 2018

when it will be fix? or how can i fix it XD?

when it will be fix? or how can i fix it XD?

Unless someone more capable says otherwise, I think it's best to just leave it and wait for the fedora developers to fix it by issuing new updates with dependencies that fixes this on its own (it might mess it up further if you try change anything now). For example my sound still works when I ignore this problem altogether, I don't run --allow-erasing or autoremove, which both may require you to do detailed investigations of the packages to find out if its safe to do or not. Just doing it blinly is like throwing a dice, you may be lucky, or sh¡t may hit the fan, depending on your luck. So unless someone has a better solution, I'd argure you just leave it, even if it isn't pretty for the eyes, or may trigger some frustrations for the many people who suffers from OCD, which may make it hard not to press that --allow-erasing or autoremove button. Trying to update it manually may also messup future updates (i.e. when fedora issues updates to fix this issue), so it may also be discouraged to try fix it yourself manually when sound still works anyway. It can understandably be a challenge for some to ignore the errors, but try to endure it.

Aekez · Jul 15, 2018

when it will be fix? or how can i fix it XD?

Unless someone more capable says otherwise, I think it's best to just leave it and wait for the fedora developers to fix it by issuing new updates with dependencies that fixes this on its own (it might mess it up further if you try change anything now). For example my sound still works when I ignore this problem altogether, I don't run --allow-erasing or autoremove, which both may require you to do detailed investigations of the packages to find out if its safe to do or not. Just doing it blinly is like throwing a dice, you may be lucky, or sh¡t may hit the fan, depending on your luck. So unless someone has a better solution, I'd argure you just leave it, even if it isn't pretty for the eyes, or may trigger some frustrations for the many people who suffers from OCD, which may make it hard not to press that --allow-erasing or autoremove button. Trying to update it manually may also messup future updates (i.e. when fedora issues updates to fix this issue), so it may also be discouraged to try fix it yourself manually when sound still works anyway. It can understandably be a challenge for some to ignore the errors, but try to endure it.

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The package gui-agent-linux has been pushed to the r4.0 testing repository for the CentOS centos7 template.
To test this update, please install it with the following command:

sudo yum update --enablerepo=qubes-vm-r4.0-current-testing

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