Docu enhancement request: How to react to OData SAML timeouts?

[DerGuteWolf]

Could you add to documentation a recommended way to react to OData SAML timeouts from HCP, etc,, cf https://help.hana.ondemand.com/help/frameset.htm?de16793b391a4bcfae6096f34433de76.html under Session Timeout.

I you think this should be better added to the cited page, could you inform your colleagues responsible for this page?

[aborjinik]

@DerGuteWolf I cannot judge whether it fits our docu or HCP so I've created an internal incident 1670258252 for this.

[ghost]

@DerGuteWolf: There is also a "feedback" function at the bottom of the cited page.
Any feedback is directly forwarded to the author of the topic.

[DerGuteWolf]

Yes, I know, already used this several times, but first you there is no interaction (ie I get no feedback and your colleague dealing with this can't get back to me if there are some questions), and second here is also the question where this needed piece of information should be added.,,

[Michadelic]

Hello DerGuteWolf,

thanks again for your suggestion. I took a look at the internal tracking and it has been forwarded to the HCP team who will update their documentation accordingly. Unfortunately they are not using github so i am not sure if you will get another update here.

At least i asked for a status update.

Kind Regards,
Michael

[DerGuteWolf]

Hi Michael,

just to be sure: the question is if course how to deal with the timeout in an OpenUI5/SAPUI5 ODataModel environment. On this page currently only a jQuery.ajaxComplete example is given.

[DerGuteWolf]

Is there any progress on this? How should one deal with such authentication ticket timeouts in OpenUI5? As this seems to be done eg on launchpad.support.sap.com it would be nice if you could provide an offical example for this.

[matz3]

As far as I could see there is no progress, yet. I will check back if this is something that will be addressed for UI5 specifically.
As there are different approaches used to send requests (XHR, jQuery, datajs) it will be hard to find any common solution except overriding the native XHR and checking for the response codes there. I guess this is also how it was solved in the Launchpad.

[DerGuteWolf]

Hi!

any progress?

I think for a first version it would be enough if the requests initiated through SAPUI5 would be considered.

Regards,
Wolfgang

[DerGuteWolf]

Any progress?

[stephania87]

Thank you for your patience.
HCP has a pattern for handling the session timeout by checking for a certain header and the information is included in their documentation - https://help.sap.com/viewer/65de2977205c403bbc107264b8eccf4b/Cloud/en-US/de16793b391a4bcfae6096f34433de76.html.
Please clarify if the request is to have the recommended handling for your UI5 application of this Session Timeout in UI5 documentation, or general information about detecting the end of a session of a running process, or built-in handling of such cases in SAPUI5.

[DerGuteWolf]

Well, I referenced this docu page already and already wrote the question is "how to deal with the timeout in an OpenUI5/SAPUI5 ODataModel environment".

The question is eg will jQuery(document).ajaxComplete work with the SAPUI5 OData Models?

Additionaly I find the reloading as suggested in the documentation way too obtrusive, as everythings the user has entered in forms would be lost on reload. launchpad.support.sap,com seems to have a mechanism in place to prevent this.

So, if there is some build-in handling in SAPUI5, I would like to ask for documentation of it, otherwise for some recommended handling.

[DerGuteWolf]

Any progress here?

[matz3]

Not that I know of. I've "pinged" the referenced internal incident, so hopefully there will be an update soon.

[goligo]

The Fiori Launchpad is using a XHR-proxy to intercept all XHR calls sent by UI5. In case one of them gets a response which indicates expired SAML authentication, it is using an iframe to authenticate again and afterwards retries to send the request. This all happens transparently for SAPUI5, for us just the XHR callback is triggered a little later.
There is a backlog item to integrate this feature into SAPUI5, so it can also be used by other applications than the FLP, but it is quite hard to get it working reliably with different kinds of IdPs.

[DerGuteWolf]

Thanks for the update. IMHO it would we helpful already to have the current FLP implementation available for other/standalone applications even it if only works with SAML 2.0 IdP which indicates the timeout with a configurable header.

[Dev-Nik]

We have the same issues here with the session timeout of standalone UI5-Applications. Reload is a poor way to handle this situation. Any progress on the Fiori Launchpad like solution?

[DerGuteWolf]

@goligo : Is there any update to the backlog item mentioned in #958 (comment) ?

[goligo]

@DerGuteWolf Sorry, there will be no more updates from me, I have left SAP.

[DerGuteWolf]

OK, thanks for the answer.
Anybody else @SAP who wants to give an update?

[jviets]

I feel with you, @DerGuteWolf ! Have the same issue and would appreciate any update...

[flovogt]

This issue will be covered in backlog item FIORITECHP1-24618.