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Game Gear games that are not working on the lastest Bizhawk build #1157

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Glitcholog opened this Issue Mar 26, 2018 · 27 comments

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commented Mar 26, 2018

LAST MODIFIED (JANUARY 11 2019)

A quick summary of the games that are not fixed yet or may have been to be intended that way

  • Pro Yakyuu GG League (doesn't boot)
  • World Derby (Intense glitching when you want to start the actual game from the menu)
  • Power Drive (intense flickers)
  • Tarzan : Lord of the Jungle ( glitched number at the bottom of the screen)
  • Fray: Shugyouhen (minor graphic glitches on the right side of the playfield)
  • Urban Strike (Sounds is weird during the intro sequence, with statics)
  • Pop Breaker (Input doesn't work)

On Kega fusion:

  • Pro Yakyuu GG League works
  • World Derby doesn't glitch out like crazy
  • Power Drive has the same intense flickers, so maybe it was how the game was programmed
  • Tarzan : Lord of the Jungle has the same glitches with the number at the bottom of the screen, but since that game is so rare and the picture and video i've found online show the same bugs, I guess it is something that is present in the cartridge itself as well
  • Fray: Shugyouhen doesn't display graphics glitches on the right side of the playfield.
  • Ill test Urban Strike and Pop Breaker when im home to see if Kega has the issues

Picture 1 KEGA FUSION
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Picture 2 BIZHAWK LASTEST VERSION
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The following game ask for the SMS BIOS when they should not since they are GG games
(So far, they are all related to the fact that those games are SMSGG games, which use a special pin on the game gear to run the Sega Master System mode on it, which is probaly why bizhawk ask for the SMS BIOS , thinking it is a SMS game)

  • OutRun Europa (USA)
  • Pac-Attack (USA, Europe)
  • R.C. Grand Prix (USA, Europe)
  • Prince of Persia (USA, Europe)
  • Predator 2 (USA, Europe)
  • WWF Wrestlemania Steel Cage Challenge (Europe)
  • Castle of Illusion Starring Mickey Mouse (USA, Europe)
  • Rastan Saga (Japan)
  • Olympic Gold (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It,Nl,Pt,Sv) (Rev 1)
  • Olympic Gold (JU) (SMSGG) (En,Fr,De,Es,It,Nl,Pt,Sv)
  • Super Kick Off (Japan)
  • Fantastic Dizzy (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
  • Excellent Dizzy Collection, The (Europe)
  • Jang Pung II (Korean pirated SMSGG)
  • Super Tetris (Pirate)

The following games look like they need the GG_in_SMS compatibility mode and System GG set in GameDB

  • Out Run Europa (E)

The following games can be run but have heavy glitches

  • Double Dragon (USA, Europe) (missing background)
  • The Terminator (UAS , Europe) (missing background)
  • Taito Chase H.Q. (USA) (Horribly glitched to the point that its unplayable)
  • World Derby (Japan) Some menu and the main game are horribly glitched, thought the game does not crash)
  • Tails Skypatrol
  • Ecco The Dolphin (USA) (pink screen, unplayable)
  • Pro Yakyuu GG League (doesn't boot)
  • Pro Yakyuu GG League '94 (doesn't boot)
  • Evander Holyfield's 'Real Deal' Boxing (USA, Europe) (doesn't boot)

The following games run but have minor glitches

  • Fray: Shugyouhen (The right side of the screen display garbled grapchics)
  • Power Drive (the game flicker horribly, but this may be how the game was programmed)
    (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BDXAjMj3F8) footage on a real game gear , unless it was filmed with low FPS, it look like the game doesn't badly flicker
  • Riddick Bowe Boxing (the life bar flickers very fast, but I'm not sure if it is how the game is programmed) (Kega Fusion also emulate the game like this) Didn't found any footage of the game running on a real system yet
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6hkCxKoj5k This video show a TAS of the game (unfortunatly, the emulator is unknown) and the life bar doesn't flickers~~
  • Tarzan : Lord of the Jungle (Europe) : The numbers and score at the bottom of the screen seems glitched, but on Kega Fusion, they are also glitched. Didn't found any footage of the game running on a real system yet and the game is known to be one of the rarest GG games

EDIT : Added Rastan Saga
EDIT 2 : Added World Derby to the glitched game section
EDIT 3 : Added Ecco the Doplhin to the glitched game section
EDIT 4 : (SEPTEMBER 24) : Update on the games that are working or not
EDIT 5: (SEP 25): Fixed Ecco & Olympic Gold games (-Asni)
EDIT 6: Added Super Kick Off Japan and Tarzan : Lord of the Jungle (Europe)
EDIT 7 : Added Evander Holyfield's 'Real Deal' Boxing (USA, Europe)
EDIT 8 : Checked Evander Holyfields Real Deal Boxing (didn't noticed it fixed it as well as Ecco), and Pro Yakuu 94
EDIT 9 : Added Juan Pung II and Super Tetris
Edit 10 : Added Urban Strike
Edit 11 : Added Pop Breaker

@Glitcholog Glitcholog changed the title Gear Gear games that are not working with the lastest version of Bizhawk Game Gear games that are not working with the lastest version of Bizhawk Mar 26, 2018

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commented Mar 26, 2018

Thanks for the testing. This will probably take a while to sort out.

Pac Attack though is fixed by basic emulation (tracking writes) to Port $05 (link cable)

I don't understand the graphics corruption in some of the others, it looks like some are combination SMS / GG ROMs? maybe something isn't being initialized correctly.

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commented Mar 30, 2018

EDIT : I added Castle of Illusion Starring Mickey Mouse (USA, Europe) and Rastan Saga (Japan) to the list of the game who ask for bios

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commented Apr 14, 2018

Ok, so most of these are game gear games that are running in SMS compatibility mode.
I didn't know such a mode existed. I can find very few mentions of it in documentation.
Apparently it is accessed by connecting a pin in the cartidge slot:

http://www.smspower.org/Hardware/MasterGearConverter

Should be fixable with a bit of work, now that I understand what is going on.

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commented May 11, 2018

Terminator needed SRAM to display background, probably for smoe others too.

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commented May 12, 2018

I added in Compatibility mode for the core and added some of the games to the DB.

Here is the current list of not working games (or ones that I haven't looked at yet):

Prince of Persia (USA, Europe)
Predator 2 (USA, Europe)
WWF Wrestlemania Steel Cage Challenge (Europe)
Castle of Illusion Starring Mickey Mouse (USA, Europe)
Rastan Saga (Japan)
Double Dragon (USA, Europe) (missing background)
World Derby (Japan) Some menu and the main game are horribly glitched, thought the game does not crash)
Ecco The Dolphin (USA) (pink screen, unplayable)

Probably now they can all be fixed just by updating the gameDB entries.

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commented Jun 10, 2018

Thank you for the quick answer! So far, I have recorded about 200 game gear out of 363 for my youtube project, so im glad more game are going to be fix!

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commented Sep 13, 2018

EDIT: Refer to the first post for the games that are working or not

Just a quick headup since the issue was referenced. The test were done on the dev version

The Terminator is fixed in the dev, its background now appears
Outrun Europe and R.C. Grand Prix, which are rare case of Game Gear games using the SMS compatibility mode, now work as well
Pac-Attack is fixed

Now, for the games that does not work or are super glitched

Black/Pink screen or unplayable
Pro Yakyuu GG League
Pro Yakyuu GG League '94
Ecco the Dolphin

Games asking for the firmware, not being regonised by Bizhawk
Prince of Persia (USA, Europe)
Predator 2 (USA, Europe)
WWF Wrestlemania Steel Cage Challenge (Europe)
Castle of Illusion Starring Mickey Mouse (USA, Europe)
Rastan Saga (Japan)

The following games can be run but have heavy glitches
Double Dragon (USA, Europe) (missing background)
Taito Chase H.Q. (USA) (Horribly glitched to the point that its unplayable)
World Derby (Japan) Some menu and the main game are horribly glitched, thought the game does not crash)

The following games run but have minor glitches
Fray: Shugyouhen (The right side of the screen display garbled grapchics)
Power Drive (the game flicker horribly, but this may be intentional)

This is what ive found so far, I didn'T test the remaining Game Gear I didn't record yet, but I will update if I find more. For now, I am not checking hacks or pirated games

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commented Sep 15, 2018

here another one

Tails Skypatrol
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commented Sep 18, 2018

Double dragon is now fixed in the master branch (latest dev build)

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SMSHawk: moved rastan saga (japan) to GG gamebd and set GG_in_SMS com…
…pat mode. This fixes controls not working - #1157
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commented Sep 18, 2018

Ok, so I have moved:

Prince of Persia (USA, Europe)
Predator 2 (USA, Europe)
WWF Wrestlemania Steel Cage Challenge (Europe)
Castle of Illusion Starring Mickey Mouse (USA, Europe)
Rastan Saga (Japan)

from gamedb_sega_sms.txt to gamedb_sega_gg.txt and set the GG_in_SMS flag. This gets those games running (whereas just setting the compat flag within gamedb_sega_sms.txt does not).

@alyosha-tas if this is incorrect for any reason let me know and we can change back.

Terminator was working before (maybe an earlier fix), but controls were not working. This is resolved after the move.

The other glitches may be resolved once #1323 is fixed, so I will stop tinkering for now.

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commented Sep 19, 2018

Thanks for sorting out some of these . I know it’s a tedious process.

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commented Sep 19, 2018

So Tails Skypatrol is the same issue as #1323 and should be resolved when that is

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commented Sep 19, 2018

Tails skypatrol is now working

@Glitcholog Glitcholog changed the title Game Gear games that are not working with the lastest version of Bizhawk Game Gear games that are not working with Bizhawk 2.3.0 Sep 21, 2018

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commented Sep 23, 2018

small update, Taito Chase HQ seems to work very well in the 21 September build, it may have been related to Tails Skypatrol and many other game with glitched graphics

I noticed that World Derby is less glitched in the build as well, displaying the menus correctly, but there is still part of the game that glitch horribly (maybe it is a bad rom dump? ill have to check out)

I also found that Olympic Gold (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It,Nl,Pt,Sv) (Rev 1) is not present in the gamedb

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commented Sep 23, 2018

I would have to guess that throwing some SRAM at Ecco the dolphin wil fix that game as well. Are you able to try that out @Glitcholog ?

I was pretty sure I fixed Taito Chase before so glad that one is working .

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commented Sep 24, 2018

tried, by adding it to the gameDB , but doesn't seems to work... All i get is a black screen

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commented Sep 25, 2018

Ecco is now fixed via b747ac2

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commented Sep 25, 2018

@Glitcholog Riddick Bow boxing life bars flicker exactly the same on Kega Fusion, so I'm assuming this is how it is supposed to be. Although obviously this isn't certain :)

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commented Sep 26, 2018

I didn'T footage of the game running on a actual system, so we may never know, Tarzan : Lord of the Jungle also have some flicker and graphics glitches, but on Kega Fusion, it has the same problem and there is no real system footage beside the title screen.

EDIT on POST 1 : Added Super Kick Off (Japan) and Tarzan : Lord of the Jungle (Europe)

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commented Sep 30, 2018

added Evander Holyfield's 'Real Deal' Boxing (USA, Europe) in the list of non working game

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commented Oct 1, 2018

are you checking in the dev build @Glitcholog ?

The same fix that worked on Ecco was also supposed to fix Real Deal Boxing (at least based on Ekeeke's commit.)

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commented Oct 1, 2018

I checked on the september 21 build, I didn't thought to update to the september 30 one, my apologie

Evender is fixed, and it seems that it fixed Pro Yakyuu GG League '94 as well as the game boot and works now, but not the original Pro Yakyuu GG League.

We're almost getting all Game Gear Games working, this is well done works from the dev!

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commented Oct 7, 2018

Added Juan Pung II and Super Tetris (even if they are pirate game, they might work by adding them to the DB since they are SMSGG games).

According to this list , there is also Cave Dude and Street Hero, 2 unrealized SMSGG game

http://www.smspower.org/Tags/SMS-GG?sid=2ab30a4c876941cc71af5515595aae01

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commented Oct 8, 2018

@Glitcholog : I have moved the above games to gamedb_sega_gg where necessary and set SMS compatibility mode. Two points:

  1. All these games appeared to be working for me anyway, although they were being loaded as SMS rather than GG with SMS compatibility, but maybe there is something that happens in your workflow that means this is a problem (movies maybe?).
  2. The two pirate games were already present in gamedb_sega_sms.txt

Please test with the latest dev version and strike them through on here when you are happy.

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commented Oct 8, 2018

Its seems I am always one dev release late when I do the test, sorry about that. Im going to do the test on the latest one

The two pirate game and the dizzy games were not working on the September 30 build on my side thought (asking for rom), olympic gold did.

I am aware that all the SMS GG games could be simply played on the Sega Master Rom instead, but for the sake of completeness, I think it is a nice thing to have the GG rom in SMS mode work in the emulator as well, to be identified as a GG movie and for the few or so people who have the SMSGG rom instead of the SMS.

Now, in the most recent build, all the SMS GG games mentioned does work now, thought I noticed that I had a SMS Super Tetris Rom. I am lurking around to see if there is an actual GG rom of it or the game was simply slapped on a GG cartridge considering it is a pirate cartridge.

edit: I found one and it work (it asked rom in earlier version)

edit 2 : edited the first post to do a list of the 5 remaining games i've found, including those that might have been programmed that way but are very rare GG games

@Glitcholog Glitcholog changed the title Game Gear games that are not working with Bizhawk 2.3.0 Game Gear games that are not working on the lastest Bizhawk build Oct 29, 2018

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commented Dec 7, 2018

Added Urban Strike to the list, the game sounds is weird at the intro sequence, which doesn't happen in Kega

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commented Dec 20, 2018

added Pop Breaker to the list, being unable to actually play the game because of the input

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