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Clarification on Duet file format #32

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MairusuPawa opened this Issue · 1 comment

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@MairusuPawa

Hello,

UltraStar (DX) and Performous have no implementation of Duet mode yet. Duet mode was added in a "semi-unofficial" USDX fork, the "Challenge Mod", but is still quite hackish.

Currently, the Duet file format is as follow :

[Header]
P1
[Lyrics]
P2
[Lyrics]
E

While this allows for some backward-compatibilities with builds not supporting Duet mode, it has notable limitations:

  • There is no way of seeing, from the USDX interface, if the song supports Duet mode
  • "P1" and "P2" can not be given specific track names (ie. "P1 = Lead vocalist / P2 = Backing vocals", "P1 = Joe / = Jane", etc)
  • P1 and P2 can not chose which track they want to sing, they have to physically switch microphones
  • There's no fall-back to a 1-player mode, if only 1 person is playing and wishes to sing the song in its entirety (have to load another file for that)

I'm currently building a song pack for USDX (not the Challenge Mod yet, as I have yet to build a Linux version of it) and am considering making a Duet for 6 singers. The song I'm working on features 6 independent lead singers, and a backing vocals track.

I'd like to obtain this behavior:

  • If 6 players are there, each one will get its own track to sing
  • If there are only two players, the song would revert to one lead singer + backing vocals for P2
  • If there's only one player, the song will have another track with mostly the lead singer and a few parts of the backing vocals mixed in

This is currently not possible with the Duet file format used in USDX-Mod.

Since one of the many focuses of Vocaluxe is to support Duet mode by default, I'd like to have a clarification on the file format it will use (I'm assuming it's using the current USDX-Mod one), and if there are plans to expand it for such cases. Thanks.

@flokuep

It is definitly plannend to work on duet-mode - But our time is very limited at this moment.

  • There is no way of seeing, from the USDX interface, if the song supports Duet mode That's wrong! There is in Vocaluxe (and CMD-Edition) a nice duet-icon, next to the video-icon.
  • "P1" and "P2" can not be given specific track names (ie. "P1 = Lead vocalist / P2 = Backing vocals", "P1 = Joe / = Jane", etc)
    This is one of the things we have to add.

  • P1 and P2 can not chose which track they want to sing, they have to physically switch microphones
    Yes, another thing we have to do...

  • There's no fall-back to a 1-player mode, if only 1 person is playing and wishes to sing the song in its entirety (have to load another file for that)
    At this moment, Vocaluxe let this player than sing the part of P1. Don't know what the CMD-Edtiton do(, but I think, there was an error?)

I think it would not be hard to implement more different players, but in my opinion more than 4 different isn't possible. You have to think of the needed lyrics-bars - One for each voice!

  • If 6 players are there, each one will get its own track to sing
  • If there are only two players, the song would revert to one lead singer + backing vocals for P2
  • If there's only one player, the song will have another track with mostly the lead singer and a few parts of the backing vocals mixed in

The easiest way would be to create different text-files and than to have the choice in vocaluxe. There was already a request in the german-board, to put different versions of one song together to one entry in song-view (e.g. karaoke-version, normal, duett etc.)

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