Rename the project #138

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aaronpk opened this Issue Mar 6, 2017 · 29 comments

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aaronpk commented Mar 6, 2017

This should not be named the same thing as the spec. This confuses people into thinking that the spec somehow relies on the indieauth.com service.

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Feel free to bikeshed name ideas here. I think following the p3k naming convention would be fun but I'm open to other ideas as well.

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aaronpk commented Mar 6, 2017

Feel free to bikeshed name ideas here. I think following the p3k naming convention would be fun but I'm open to other ideas as well.

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dg01d Mar 30, 2017

Avion?

Utterly bonkers bat-wing aircraft designed by Clément Ader in the 1890s.
See: Wikipedia Avion III

dg01d commented Mar 30, 2017

Avion?

Utterly bonkers bat-wing aircraft designed by Clément Ader in the 1890s.
See: Wikipedia Avion III

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Signmark, org and io domains are available.

ojn commented Apr 17, 2017

Signmark, org and io domains are available.

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aviato? :trollface:

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kevinmarks Apr 21, 2017

Would "visiting card" be the victorian thing?

Would "visiting card" be the victorian thing?

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cweiske commented Apr 21, 2017

identproxy

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or... proxident, tho that kind of sounds like toothpaste

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aaronpk commented Apr 21, 2017

identproxy

or... proxident, tho that kind of sounds like toothpaste

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proxident extra white professional

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cweiske commented Apr 21, 2017

proxident extra white professional

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identity.plumbing

identity.plumbing

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Indentity?
IndieAccess
BikeshedID

Indentity?
IndieAccess
BikeshedID

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sknebel May 9, 2017

logthem.in? (for sites delegating)
ownyourauth?
auththemall? (why does the mall need to be authed?)

sknebel commented May 9, 2017

logthem.in? (for sites delegating)
ownyourauth?
auththemall? (why does the mall need to be authed?)

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rename the project? #78

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rhiaro Jul 1, 2017

IndieAuth As A Service, IAAAS, prounounced "YAAAASSSS!!!"

rhiaro commented Jul 1, 2017

IndieAuth As A Service, IAAAS, prounounced "YAAAASSSS!!!"

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tantek Jul 12, 2017

Since the service is user-facing, it deserves a more user-friendly name than IndieAuth or anything else plumbingy / jargony.

tantek commented Jul 12, 2017

Since the service is user-facing, it deserves a more user-friendly name than IndieAuth or anything else plumbingy / jargony.

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mblaney Jul 13, 2017

it's going to be hard to top IAAAS, but I suggested signet on IRC a while ago.... sort of feels like it has a steam punk vibe :-)

mblaney commented Jul 13, 2017

it's going to be hard to top IAAAS, but I suggested signet on IRC a while ago.... sort of feels like it has a steam punk vibe :-)

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sebilasse Jul 13, 2017

indieauth.rocks would indicate it is a tool, but maybe particularly a "validator"
but it is same fashion as existing micropub.rocks, websub.rocks, webmention.rocks, indietech.rocks ...
logthem.in as suggested by sknebel seems to be available - check
iauth.me seems to be available - check here [no https whois]

sebilasse commented Jul 13, 2017

indieauth.rocks would indicate it is a tool, but maybe particularly a "validator"
but it is same fashion as existing micropub.rocks, websub.rocks, webmention.rocks, indietech.rocks ...
logthem.in as suggested by sknebel seems to be available - check
iauth.me seems to be available - check here [no https whois]

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sebsel Jul 13, 2017

someauth, short for 'social media auth', but also 'this auth is sooo me'~

and/or: somelogin, same fashion, but more for people because 'auth' is jargon.

sebsel commented Jul 13, 2017

someauth, short for 'social media auth', but also 'this auth is sooo me'~

and/or: somelogin, same fashion, but more for people because 'auth' is jargon.

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indielogin.{com,net,org} are all available.

jjuran commented Jul 15, 2017

indielogin.{com,net,org} are all available.

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petermolnar Jul 15, 2017

following the p3k scheme:

  • sigil
  • chancery

domain-wise these are tough ones though.

petermolnar commented Jul 15, 2017

following the p3k scheme:

  • sigil
  • chancery

domain-wise these are tough ones though.

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It's authentication, so call it "it me"

It's authentication, so call it "it me"

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Did I mention I actually need two names for this? 😂

  • The service that users delegate their domain to (analogous to how choosing an OpenID provider used to be a thing, e.g. myopenid.com). This is used for authorization as well as authentication.
  • The service for developers that abstracts RelMeAuth, that allows users to sign in with their domain. Authentication only.
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aaronpk commented Jul 17, 2017

Did I mention I actually need two names for this? 😂

  • The service that users delegate their domain to (analogous to how choosing an OpenID provider used to be a thing, e.g. myopenid.com). This is used for authorization as well as authentication.
  • The service for developers that abstracts RelMeAuth, that allows users to sign in with their domain. Authentication only.
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Currently considering:

  • glassmark[.net] for users
  • nymix[.io] for developers

So, the question is, would you sign up for a service called glassmark? e.g. would you switch from myopenid.com to glassmark[.net]?

If you're building an app, would you direct your users to nymix[.io] to sign in? This is also what people signing in to the indieweb.org wiki will be redirected to when signing in.

Now I'm going to let these sit for a while and come back later and see if I still think they're a good idea.

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aaronpk commented Jul 17, 2017

Currently considering:

  • glassmark[.net] for users
  • nymix[.io] for developers

So, the question is, would you sign up for a service called glassmark? e.g. would you switch from myopenid.com to glassmark[.net]?

If you're building an app, would you direct your users to nymix[.io] to sign in? This is also what people signing in to the indieweb.org wiki will be redirected to when signing in.

Now I'm going to let these sit for a while and come back later and see if I still think they're a good idea.

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Something handling my identity has glass in its name .. bad idea.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gl%C3%A4serner_Mensch_(Datenschutz) (german only)

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cweiske commented Jul 17, 2017

Something handling my identity has glass in its name .. bad idea.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gl%C3%A4serner_Mensch_(Datenschutz) (german only)

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totally agreed to cweiske - misleading for german speakers, so

would you switch from myopenid.com to glassmark[.net] ?

No. Additionally it would leave me freaked out.
Orwells opaque glass

about (1) Like kevinmarks idea having me in it

Why must the service for developers also be renamed - whats wrong with IndieAuth ?

sebilasse commented Jul 17, 2017

totally agreed to cweiske - misleading for german speakers, so

would you switch from myopenid.com to glassmark[.net] ?

No. Additionally it would leave me freaked out.
Orwells opaque glass

about (1) Like kevinmarks idea having me in it

Why must the service for developers also be renamed - whats wrong with IndieAuth ?

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Fix URLs in IndieAuth Poster #9

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Okay, did not realize that "glass" had such a strong connotation for Germans!

The service for developers is something that their users will see. I realized that they will also need to give instructions to their users to add the rel=me links to their websites, or point their users at the docs on this site: https://indieauth.com/setup

For this reason, the name of the developers' service actually needs to be even more user-friendly than the other one, because with IndieAuth the authorization server, you'll only see that site if you "sign up" for it by linking to the authorization endpoint.

The developers' service is also only used for login (authentication), not authorization. For this reason, I'm now leaning towards "indielogin" as the name. This means the docs on indielogin will never mention the word "auth" or "authorization".

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aaronpk commented Jul 19, 2017

Okay, did not realize that "glass" had such a strong connotation for Germans!

The service for developers is something that their users will see. I realized that they will also need to give instructions to their users to add the rel=me links to their websites, or point their users at the docs on this site: https://indieauth.com/setup

For this reason, the name of the developers' service actually needs to be even more user-friendly than the other one, because with IndieAuth the authorization server, you'll only see that site if you "sign up" for it by linking to the authorization endpoint.

The developers' service is also only used for login (authentication), not authorization. For this reason, I'm now leaning towards "indielogin" as the name. This means the docs on indielogin will never mention the word "auth" or "authorization".

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I just registered indielogin.com

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aaronpk commented Jul 19, 2017

I just registered indielogin.com

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aaronpk Jul 26, 2017

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Closing this as the new names have been decided. Thanks for the input everyone!

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aaronpk commented Jul 26, 2017

Closing this as the new names have been decided. Thanks for the input everyone!

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