diff --git a/lib/PDF/Template/Base.pm b/lib/PDF/Template/Base.pm
index 5f4abd2..50c01bf 100755
--- a/lib/PDF/Template/Base.pm
+++ b/lib/PDF/Template/Base.pm
@@ -116,8 +116,10 @@ sub resolve
 
 sub render
 {
-#    my $self = shift;
-#    my ($context) = @_;
+    my $self = shift;
+    my ($context) = @_;
+
+	warn "\t\tXrendering $self->{NAME}" if $context->{DEBUG};
 
     return 1;
 }
diff --git a/lib/PDF/Template/Container.pm b/lib/PDF/Template/Container.pm
index 4b76374..2d76c4c 100755
--- a/lib/PDF/Template/Container.pm
+++ b/lib/PDF/Template/Container.pm
@@ -78,28 +78,21 @@ sub iterate_over_children
 
     my $continue = 1;
 
-	if ($context->{DEBUG}) {
-		warn "rendering " . ref($self) . " at " . $context->{X} . ", " .
-			$context->{Y} . "\n";
-		warn "rendered items\n\t" . join("\n\t", map { ref($_) }
-					grep { $_->has_rendered() } @{$self->{ELEMENTS}}) . "\n";
-		warn "unrendered items\n\t" . join("\n\t", map { ref($_) }
-					grep { !$_->has_rendered() } @{$self->{ELEMENTS}}) . "\n";
-	}
+	warn "\t" x $context->{LEVEL} .
+			"rendering $self->{_NAME} at $context->{X},$context->{Y}\n"
+		if ($context->{DEBUG});
+
+	$context->{LEVEL}++;
 
     for my $e (grep !$_->has_rendered, @{$self->{ELEMENTS}})
     {
         $e->enter_scope($context);
 
         my $rc;
-		warn "\trendering " . ref($e) . " at " . $context->{X} . ", " .
-			$context->{Y} . "\n" if $context->{DEBUG};
         if ($rc = $e->render($context))
         {
-			warn "\trendered " . ref($e) . "\n" if $context->{DEBUG};
             $e->mark_as_rendered;
         }
-		warn "\tresult $rc\n" if $context->{DEBUG};
         $continue = $rc if $continue;
 
         $e->exit_scope($context);
@@ -107,9 +100,10 @@ sub iterate_over_children
 		last if (!$continue && $context->pagebreak_tripped());
     }
 
-	if ($context->{DEBUG}) {
-		warn "rendered /" . ref($self) . " result $continue\n";
-	}
+	$context->{LEVEL}--;
+
+	warn "\t" x $context->{LEVEL} . "rendered /" . ref($self) .
+		" result $continue\n" if ($context->{DEBUG});
 
     return $continue;
 }
diff --git a/lib/PDF/Template/Element.pm b/lib/PDF/Template/Element.pm
index 7da7fa1..7a819ef 100755
--- a/lib/PDF/Template/Element.pm
+++ b/lib/PDF/Template/Element.pm
@@ -22,6 +22,70 @@ sub set_color
     return 1;
 }
 
+# default render does nothing
+sub _render
+{}
+
+sub render
+{
+	my ($self, $context) = @_;
+
+    return 0 unless $self->should_render($context);
+
+	$self->prerender($context);
+	$self->_render($context);
+	$self->postrender($context);
+
+	return 1;
+}
+
+sub prerender
+{
+	my ($self, $context) = @_;
+
+	my ($X, $Y) = map { $context->get($self, $_) } qw/X Y/;
+
+	# allow relative positioning of the cursor
+	given ($self->{Y}) {
+		when (undef) {
+		}
+
+		when (m/^-(\d+)/) {
+			$Y -= $1;
+		}
+
+		when (m/^[+](\d+)/) {
+			$Y += $1;
+		}
+
+		default {
+			$Y = $self->{Y};
+		}
+	}
+
+	# save for later in case this element should not move the cursor
+	map { $self->{'OLD_' . $_} = $_ } qw/X Y/;
+
+    my $p = $context->{PDF};
+	$p->move($X, $Y);
+	@{$context}{qw/X Y/} = ($X, $Y);
+
+	warn "\t" x $context->{LEVEL} . "rendering $self->{TAG} at $X,$Y"
+		if $context->{DEBUG};
+}
+
+sub postrender
+{
+	my ($self, $context) = @_;
+	my $reset_cursor = $self->{RESET_CURSOR};
+
+	# reset the X/Y coordinates if no_translate attribute is set
+	if ($reset_cursor) {
+		warn "reset cursor set, resetting coords" if $context->{DEBUG};
+		@{$context}{qw/X Y/} = @{$self}{qw/OLD_X OLD_Y/};
+	}
+}
+
 1;
 __END__
 
diff --git a/lib/PDF/Template/Element/Bookmark.pm b/lib/PDF/Template/Element/Bookmark.pm
index 970148e..76fbb9e 100755
--- a/lib/PDF/Template/Element/Bookmark.pm
+++ b/lib/PDF/Template/Element/Bookmark.pm
@@ -15,13 +15,11 @@ sub new
     return $self;
 }
 
-sub render
+sub _render
 {
     my $self = shift;
     my ($context) = @_;
 
-    return 0 unless $self->should_render($context);
-
     return 1 if $context->{CALC_LAST_PAGE};
 
     my $txt = $self->{TXTOBJ}->resolve($context);
diff --git a/lib/PDF/Template/Element/Line.pm b/lib/PDF/Template/Element/Line.pm
index 8840fb5..33f5535 100755
--- a/lib/PDF/Template/Element/Line.pm
+++ b/lib/PDF/Template/Element/Line.pm
@@ -5,20 +5,11 @@ use warnings;
 
 use base 'PDF::Template::Element';
 
-sub render
+sub _render
 {
     my $self = shift;
     my ($context) = @_;
 
-	if (!$self->should_render($context)) {
-		warn "not rendering " . ref($self) . "\n";
-		warn "\tbecause has rendered\n" if $self->{__THIS_HAS_RENDERED__};
-		warn "\tbecause context\n" if !$context->should_render($self);
-		return 0;
-	}
-
-    return 0 unless $self->should_render($context);
-
     return 1 if $context->{CALC_LAST_PAGE};
 
     my $p = $context->{PDF};
@@ -28,6 +19,9 @@ sub render
 
     my $vals = $self->make_vals($context);
 
+	warn(sprintf("rendering line %d,%d -> %d,%d", @{$vals}{qw/X1 Y1 X2 Y2/}))
+		if $context->{DEBUG};
+
     my $width = $context->get($self, 'WIDTH') || 1;
 
     $p->linewidth($width);
diff --git a/lib/PDF/Template/Element/Pos.pm b/lib/PDF/Template/Element/Pos.pm
index 02d87ef..07d1cc6 100644
--- a/lib/PDF/Template/Element/Pos.pm
+++ b/lib/PDF/Template/Element/Pos.pm
@@ -14,13 +14,56 @@ sub new
     return $self;
 }
 
-sub render
-{
-    my $self = shift;
-    my ($context) = @_;
-
-	$context->{Y} = $self->{Y};
-}
-
 1;
 __END__
+
+=head1 NAME
+
+PDF::Template::Element::Pos
+
+=head1 PURPOSE
+
+Move the cursor to a new position
+
+=head1 NODE NAME
+
+POS
+
+=head1 INHERITANCE
+
+PDF::Template::Element
+
+=head1 ATTRIBUTES
+
+=over 1
+
+=item * Y
+The new Y position, either absolute or +/- to make a relative move
+
+=back
+
+=head1 CHILDREN
+
+None
+
+=head1 AFFECTS
+
+Resultant PDF
+
+=head1 DEPENDENCIES
+
+None
+
+=head1 USAGE
+
+  <pos y="-10"/>
+
+That moves the cursor form its current position down the page 10 points.
+
+=head1 AUTHOR
+
+Andrew Wansink (andy@halogix.com)
+
+=head1 SEE ALSO
+
+=cut
diff --git a/lib/PDF/Template/Element/Weblink.pm b/lib/PDF/Template/Element/Weblink.pm
index bc82746..78c0428 100755
--- a/lib/PDF/Template/Element/Weblink.pm
+++ b/lib/PDF/Template/Element/Weblink.pm
@@ -15,13 +15,11 @@ sub new
     return $self;
 }
 
-sub render
+sub _render
 {
     my $self = shift;
     my ($context) = @_;
 
-    return 0 unless $self->should_render($context);
-
     return 1 if $context->{CALC_LAST_PAGE};
 
     my $url = $context->get($self, 'URL');