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Asterics Grid Voice menu (on iOS) only shows one language of three available on Accesibility Settings. #223
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…r different languages (happens on iPad), see #223
I now have a real iPad available for testing and found out the reason for this problem: iOS has many voices with the same name (e.g. "Eddy"). I have considered voice names to be unique and therefore discarded Now there are many more voices like Should be available for testing on grid.asterics.eu/latest/ in 10 minutes. |
OK, for me it seems that there are much more voices available in the iOS settings: This is what the settings in AsTeRICS Grid look like for me now: Most of the voices available seem to come from "Eloquence" in the iOS settings menu, where these voices are listed. |
Perhaps we have different iOS versions? Our iPad is old (5 years ago). Perhaps it's the reason why we only have 3 voices and only ES-ES and ES-MX. Or perhaps is because we have the iOS on Spanish. We don't know the reason but as you see in screenshots we dont have so many voices avaiable. Where is the path you floow to see all the voices avaiable? Attach some screenshots in English. We will try to change the language to English and follow the steps to try and we tell you our iOS version. Thanks. |
We have an iPad Pro 12,9 inch, 3rd generation, with iOS 16. Maybe it's because it's the "pro" version. I've switched my language to Spanish and this is the path in iOS settings to get to the voices (but I think it's the same you're using): |
In an email you've commented:
This isn't working for me, "automatic" just uses the first language of the list. |
I've posted the behaviour of missing voices at the Apple Developer forum. It's currently being reviewed and then should be available at this link: https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/723503 Let's see if I get an answer. |
Chapter 2. We had an Ipad Pro 9.5 with iOS 15.6. We have uploaded it to iOS 16. The result is, as you comment, that they have added new voices for different Spanish dialects and now is available the new "Eloquence" voice that offer different voices that are really really awful and with very poor quality. So, the new feature that you have added in latest, shows the new "Eloquence" voices but they are so poor that it's better to come back to the main version solution and offer only one per language. As a collateral effect, the trick that we use for setting the voice in Automatic (using the voice predefined in Accessibility) is lost. It worked with iOS 15 but not with iOS 16. So, we have lost more than we won with system updates. Hopefully, Apple responds to you and can reorientate this, because it's a pity not to have access to all the available voices through the API. |
Oh, that's really embarrassing that updating to a new version takes away functionality 😞
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Can you come back in the the update you made yesterday in latest to restore the list of voices as is in manin version? The new "Eloquence" voices is better that are not show in the list because are awful. About Apple response they not clarify why Web Speech API only show one voice and not all pre-installed. Because in case of Spanish Jorge that is preinstalalled is not shown in the list of Asterics. Not working the trick of Automatic selection it would be neccesary that all pre-installed voices (3 in Spanish, Jorge, Monica,...) are listed. It's really a problem because users need one male voice at least to choose. |
I've commented to Apple that it's embarrassing that the iOS 16 update takes away some functionalities from the user and also that preinstalled voices like "Jorge" are not listed. Of course I could revert the update of AsTeRICS Grid, but it would mean that I'm restoring a bug, which isn't what I really want to do. Just because the voices aren't good, I don't think they should be removed, I think the users should be able to decide what they want to use. However if you really think that it's best to remove the voices, I maybe would only filter out the spanish "Eloquence" voices, not all. Maybe for some other language these voices are better or the only offline alternative?! I also could just sort the voices and display the "Eloquence" voices at the bottom. |
Ok thanks for commenting on it to Apple. |
We have tested un other languages like English and some voces luke bubbles or lsughing are a joke (but ver sadly). So please leave Eloquence voices at the end of the list in you can. Anyway we are stunning about this new voices. We don't understand coming from Apple but it's their problem. Thanks |
…Apple "Eloquence" and Google voices, see #223
I've just updated to https://grid.asterics.eu/latest
I think this should be a good solution. |
Ok, thanks. It's the best solution at the moment. We hope Apple gives a solution and it's possible to have access to all the other voices via Web Speech API (including Jorge or Monica) or recover the option to select them via Automatic selection on Asterics. |
I've just updated to iOS 17 and it looks like something has changed. For each language I now can select at least one higher quality voice, for German So in total I think a very positive change. However of course it would be still better if we would have all voices that are listed in the system settings. |
Yes. They are good news but not completely because at least in spanish we have a problem. There are no male voices and many users don't identify with female ones. We don't know how Apple doesn't consider something so basic as it's to offer almost one male and one female quality voice. |
Yes, it's the same in German, there is only female |
On an iPad configured in Spanish, in Content Reading option inside Accessibility Settings, the system offer 3 languages for Spanish (Spain) and another three for Spanish (Mexico):
But in Asterics Grid, on Voice Menu you can only select one language in Spanish (Spain), Monica and one for Spanish (Mexico), Paulina:
It could be neccesary to investigate why it shows only one and if it is or not possible to retrieve the three languages available on Accessibility options.
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