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Changes to default protection durations #217

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Callanecc opened this Issue Apr 20, 2014 · 9 comments

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Callanecc commented Apr 20, 2014

SEMI-PROTECTION PRESETS
At the moment (when selecting any semi-protection as a preset) the default move protection is an indefinite full protection. Wikipedia's default is to duplicate what is currently selected as the edit protection. Given that would it be possible for the deafultWould it be possible for the Twinkle protection module to do the same?

FULL-PROTECTION PRESETS
The same could be done for full protection presets, for example rather than the default move protection length being indefinite can it be the same as the edit protection default (which is currently 2 days)?

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atlight commented Nov 18, 2015

@MusikAnimal Is this still an issue?

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Callanecc commented Nov 18, 2015

Whether this is an issue to be fixed is obviously up to you. But Twinkle still has the same behaviour as when I initiated the request.

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MusikAnimal commented Nov 18, 2015

It is true Twinkle differs from the normal form in the default duration of move protection, but I have to ask is this truly desirable? When I protect against moves, I'm usually inclined to believe it's not likely to change moving forward. Obviously not always the case, but the prime example simply being vandalism. E.g. Google being changed to Google on wheels!. Well that's it, we've reason to protect, so indef it is. Or U.S. Open being changed to US Open. That could also go to United States Open etc, let's put a halt to the ambiguity and force discussion once we've seen it's an issue. Page moves should be infrequent, is my thought.

So for Twinkle I just think we should default to whatever is most convenient or the most common scenario. If we feel that's a temporary duration we can make it happen, no problem. What do you think?

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Callanecc commented Nov 18, 2015

True, however if you're protecting due to an edit war why would you want indefinite move protection?

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MusikAnimal commented Nov 18, 2015

Ah, sorry, I should have read what you said more carefully =P With full protection against edit warring it does default to indef move protection, when page moves may have nothing to do with it. In that case yes it's quite sensible to have the durations be the same. Same if you semi-protect then check the move protection, it should only semi-protect the move for the same duration. Correct? Meanwhile, selecting move protection by itself will default to indefinite sysop. I guess that equates to default MediaWiki behaviour! We can make this happen :)

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Callanecc commented Nov 18, 2015

Exactly my thoughts! :)

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MusikAnimal commented Nov 18, 2015

Also I can try to make the durations sync as they do with MW, where if you change the edit protection level/duration, the move protection settings change with it, but not the other way around

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MusikAnimal commented Nov 18, 2015

Eh, or I guess that shouldn't happen once the move protection option has been checked. Syncing it like that when both are checked might present an odd user experience

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MusikAnimal commented Nov 23, 2015

All set with #301

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