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Allow us to mark articles as stubs using Twinkle #222

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gparyani opened this Issue Jun 10, 2014 · 6 comments

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gparyani commented Jun 10, 2014

Twinkle should have the ability to mark articles as stubs. Right now, I have to look in the list of stub templates and then pick out the right one. Give us this ability so that we can do it inline!

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This is an often-requested feature; see here, here and here for examples. As you can see, no real conclusion was reached in any of those discussions.

The main difficulty lies in the fact that there are thousands of different stub templates. It is impractical to list them all within Twinkle. Having said that, there seems to be general support for adding the basic {{stub}} tag to Twinkle, so I guess we could do that and then let stub-sorters select the correct tag. (I believe there are other user scripts that help with stub sorting...)

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This is an often-requested feature; see here, here and here for examples. As you can see, no real conclusion was reached in any of those discussions.

The main difficulty lies in the fact that there are thousands of different stub templates. It is impractical to list them all within Twinkle. Having said that, there seems to be general support for adding the basic {{stub}} tag to Twinkle, so I guess we could do that and then let stub-sorters select the correct tag. (I believe there are other user scripts that help with stub sorting...)

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I propose that the feature be implemented as follows. First, check to see whether you are viewing an article. Then, add a new "Stub" option to the TW menu. When that is clicked, present the user with a dialog that either allows them to search for a stub type using a keyword or pick out a stub template in an interactive, category-based format. The current discussions tend to go toward putting it as an option in the Tag menu, but I think that it should go in a separate button and be interactive as I described earlier.

gparyani commented Jun 10, 2014

I propose that the feature be implemented as follows. First, check to see whether you are viewing an article. Then, add a new "Stub" option to the TW menu. When that is clicked, present the user with a dialog that either allows them to search for a stub type using a keyword or pick out a stub template in an interactive, category-based format. The current discussions tend to go toward putting it as an option in the Tag menu, but I think that it should go in a separate button and be interactive as I described earlier.

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FWIW, I already have a stub script that you can use which has the same functionality, but in (I guess) a less usable form.

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mc10 commented Jun 10, 2014

FWIW, I already have a stub script that you can use which has the same functionality, but in (I guess) a less usable form.

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@gparyani Would you find it useful in any way if {{stub}} was added to Twinkle, or would you only be satisfied with a more sophisticated system?

(Just to note here that it has been requested for some years to merge a deletion discussion sorting (WP:DELSORT) script into Twinkle. It has not yet been done because (a) it's very complex and unlike anything already in Twinkle, (b) the existing scripts are poorly written and would need work to bring them up to Twinkle standard, and (c) it's a rather niche script that would see little use. Stub sorting is perhaps a bit less niche, but the other two problems are still there.)

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@gparyani Would you find it useful in any way if {{stub}} was added to Twinkle, or would you only be satisfied with a more sophisticated system?

(Just to note here that it has been requested for some years to merge a deletion discussion sorting (WP:DELSORT) script into Twinkle. It has not yet been done because (a) it's very complex and unlike anything already in Twinkle, (b) the existing scripts are poorly written and would need work to bring them up to Twinkle standard, and (c) it's a rather niche script that would see little use. Stub sorting is perhaps a bit less niche, but the other two problems are still there.)

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Stub templates are sorted in categories and subcategories so there is some kind of hierarchy that could be used to allow the user to browse the stub templates and select a fitting one. See [[Category:Top-level stub categories]] for the entry point.
I haven't looked at any stub sorting script though.

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Amalthea commented Jun 10, 2014

Stub templates are sorted in categories and subcategories so there is some kind of hierarchy that could be used to allow the user to browse the stub templates and select a fitting one. See [[Category:Top-level stub categories]] for the entry point.
I haven't looked at any stub sorting script though.

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gparyani Jun 11, 2014

@atlight It states in the stub documentation that {{stub}} is "often added by bots". Most of the time, I want to replace the {{stub}} tag that has been added by a bot with a more specific tag, so simply adding {{stub}} in the Tag menu is insufficient.

gparyani commented Jun 11, 2014

@atlight It states in the stub documentation that {{stub}} is "often added by bots". Most of the time, I want to replace the {{stub}} tag that has been added by a bot with a more specific tag, so simply adding {{stub}} in the Tag menu is insufficient.

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