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Move/edit whiteboard objects #2351

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bigbluebutton-issue-import opened this issue Aug 12, 2015 · 24 comments
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Move/edit whiteboard objects #2351

bigbluebutton-issue-import opened this issue Aug 12, 2015 · 24 comments

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@bigbluebutton-issue-import bigbluebutton-issue-import commented Aug 12, 2015

Originally reported on Google Code with ID 1599

Currently, when the presenter draws on the whiteboard, the object is fixed.  For example,
they can't move/resize the square after it is drawn, nor can they edit a text field.

Add editing of objects to the whiteboard.

Reported by ffdixon on 2013-07-28 14:24:37

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@bigbluebutton-issue-import bigbluebutton-issue-import commented Aug 12, 2015

Also add selecting of objects for deletion (as opposed to delete clearing all objects).

Reported by ffdixon on 2014-02-12 21:34:00

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@bigbluebutton-issue-import bigbluebutton-issue-import commented Aug 12, 2015

When will "moving/resizing" feature to be included in BBB?

Reported by mika.k.martikainen on 2014-02-27 21:01:45

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@bigbluebutton-issue-import bigbluebutton-issue-import commented Aug 12, 2015

When developing whiteboard features further, please benchmark e.g. against http://idroo.com/
which is praised by some math tutors. E.g. moving objects on whiteboard, writing text
can start with single mouse click vs. BBB's drawing an area for writing first, possibility
to choose different empty "whiteboard", etc. 

Reported by mika.k.martikainen on 2014-02-27 21:24:53

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@bigbluebutton-issue-import bigbluebutton-issue-import commented Aug 12, 2015

Hi Mika,

Thanks for sharing the information on idroo.com!  


Reported by ffdixon on 2014-02-27 22:43:34

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@bigbluebutton-issue-import bigbluebutton-issue-import commented Aug 12, 2015

Another tools to benchmark with is www.wiziq.com. They have a very well functioning
whiteboard.

Reported by mika.k.martikainen on 2014-08-11 11:49:16

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@bigbluebutton-issue-import bigbluebutton-issue-import commented Aug 12, 2015

Hi Mika,

Thanks for the comments.  You can expect some more enhancements to the whiteboard in
future iterations of BigBlueButton (beyond 0.9.0).

Reported by ffdixon on 2014-08-11 12:03:45

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@bigbluebutton-issue-import bigbluebutton-issue-import commented Aug 12, 2015

Is there any tentative time by when this functionality will be available?

Reported by shahforam14 on 2014-09-18 21:22:20

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@bigbluebutton-issue-import bigbluebutton-issue-import commented Aug 12, 2015

Hi, 

No plans yet -- we're focused on finishing 0.9.0 at the moment.  Once we're done, we'll
look at the list of features for the next release and prioritize them.  For details
on how we do this, see

  https://code.google.com/p/bigbluebutton/wiki/FAQ#When_will_feature_X_be_implemented

Reported by ffdixon on 2014-09-18 23:29:54

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@bigbluebutton-issue-import bigbluebutton-issue-import commented Aug 12, 2015

Reported by ffdixon on 2014-09-24 12:43:01

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@bigbluebutton-issue-import bigbluebutton-issue-import commented Aug 12, 2015

Issue 1801 has been merged into this issue.

Reported by ffdixon on 2014-09-24 12:44:37

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@nordby nordby commented Feb 20, 2020

maybe now something has changed?

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@ffdixon ffdixon commented Feb 20, 2020

We saw your similar comment in #7036. We'll update this issue when we have more details on the what is planned for the next release of BigBlueButton, which will be version 2.3.

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@fiq fiq commented Apr 1, 2020

+1 for this feature. I've just had some feedback that not being able to move an object is seen as a limitation when delivering collaborative exercises such as sorting/grouping. It would also be useful for the whiteboard to be fist class as opposed to an object which depends on being overlayed over a white slide. We're measuring it against google-jamboard which is quite similar except that it's slide-independent and allows you to move content.

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@lukas71 lukas71 commented Apr 19, 2020

+1 for that. And more the possibility of clip-art and pre-configured image to import...

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@iSamof iSamof commented Apr 19, 2020

Friends - the enhancements you mention are great BUT google-jamboard cannot do half the stuff that BBB is doing. And BBB cannot be all things to everyone, all at the same time.

Drawing and manipulating objects can be done in a variety of tools including Power Point on a shared screen - the presenter would have to move the objects around.

From my business viewpoint, BBB is a first class teaching and conferencing tool and needs to build on that. There is so much to be done that focus has to be maintained. The white boarding works for us ... and if BBB upgrade it to vector objects then great.

But I'd prefer energy and focus to be devoted to what makes BBB unique and not diluted to include tools that others already provide. I get it, those others are not integrated.

Just my 2 cents worth ;-)

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@poetslipvis poetslipvis commented Apr 22, 2020

We have over 100 instructors using BBB and the very limited whiteboard functions have not gone unnoticed. The fact you can't drop and drag or edit is quite basic.

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@ProfMarte ProfMarte commented May 4, 2020

Hi,
do you know https://github.com/OpenBoard-org/OpenBoard ?
May be you can share code from there to integrate in BBB. OpenBoard is one of the greatest Whiteboard tools and it is open source. May be it is possible to cooperate.
That's just I think: Don't try to invent the wheel new.
My workaround is to share the screen by working in OpenBoard, but then it is no colaboration possible. On the other hand: WIthout the possibility to delete selectable objects (at least having a rubber tool like in paint) and without the possibility to move objets, colaborative use is very very limited and unthinkable while teaching.
May be this idea helps.
Regards
Marte

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@Beiri22 Beiri22 commented May 13, 2020

We also suffer from the limited capabilities of the whiteboard. Is there any way to reactivate this issue; and increase its priority?

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@ferdinandSoethe ferdinandSoethe commented Jun 20, 2020

+1 for that

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@matiasilva matiasilva commented Jun 20, 2020

Hi guys. If you are or know any developers, then pull requests are really helpful. Time is limited and it takes time to test and develop features. The community can't just switch priorities when certain users demand a feature. If you really want to see a feature, you can either reach out to the companies providing commercial support for BigBlueButton or start a discussion in the developers group about how to go implementing it. Certainly more useful than stating what's wrong with the current implementation and expecting others to magically develop the feature.

As for my opinion on this, I agree with @iSamof. For the time being, I find using Google JAMboard and sharing my screen for cases where I need extra functionality works just fine.

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@ferdinandSoethe ferdinandSoethe commented Jun 20, 2020

As a former committer to Apache projects I can see your point, @matiasilva. However if you are a teacher at a German University you are not allowed to use Google or other external solutions because of Data Protections laws. And using screen sharing with a larger number of users quickly becomes a performance issue als well. So improving the well designed presentation system makes sense and might be yet another step towards making BBB the best system there is.

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@sonerd sonerd commented Jul 2, 2020

+1 for this feature

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@mehdikazemi3120 mehdikazemi3120 commented Jul 20, 2020

+1 for this

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@ffdixon ffdixon commented Jul 20, 2020

We appreciate the feedback. We've done some performance improvements in the whiteboard for 2.3, but have no plans to enable editing/moving of objects in that release. We're really trying to keep the scope down on 2.3 so we can ship a stable build as soon as possible (on Ubuntu 18.04) and build more features upon it.

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