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Censorship of statements #1169

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benjyz opened this Issue Dec 22, 2015 · 4 comments

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benjyz commented Dec 22, 2015

from #1165 "Further comments will be deleted. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me directly."

appropriate forums are censored, and bitcoin-org is now censoring as well. so the statement on bitcoin-org is meaningless since it only shows approvals, but not disprovals. It creates impression of consensus, when in reality that might not be the case.

seweso commented Dec 22, 2015

A list of developers (and some random people) is just that. It is still valuable to the people who think the ability to code translates into the ability to govern.

I have seen the best coders get promoted countless of times within businesses, it rarely ends well. You lose a good coder, and you gain a bad leader/manager.

So the issue is not about censorship. Its about a failure to properly govern.

Which is ironic, because core gets a lot of power from the very miners they distrusted. So you have core dev's who really like soft forks, but they still want to keep a hard limit and not trust miners with just soft limits.

Censorship is the least of our problems I would say.

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harding commented Dec 22, 2015

Please note that comments from MillyBitcoin have been deleted because that person was previously banned from this repository.

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btcdrak commented Dec 22, 2015

@benjyz I think you misunderstand #1165 is not a vote. Bitcoin Core already made a decision about the direction of development in the next year towards scaling. The PR offers the greater community the chance to add their signature to the document. As such, it is not a place to discuss or even dissent, and any such activity belongs elsewhere as explained here.

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saivann commented Dec 23, 2015

Closing the issue, @benjyz I can understand your frustration but opening GitHub issues won't achieve anything, concretely speaking.

As for the implicit suggestion of displaying disapproval, I don't think it's warranted on a written statement like this one (just like the XT website does not list its detractors).

This said if anyone wants to make a website that tries documenting / summing up the research, arguments and positions of everyone on all proposals, and try be as neutral as possible, and gets to do a good job at it, I'd be the first to applause. That'd be likely a lot of work though.

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