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Add "Capacity increases" page with initial signatures #1165
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maaku
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Dec 20, 2015
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ACK Statement. |
adam3us
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Dec 21, 2015
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maaku
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Dec 21, 2015
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Note if you want your name added to the list, use "ACK statement" |
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ACK statement, this is duly needed. |
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ACK statement disclaimer: we intend to use/support SW; not sure if the ACK is only valid for 'core' contributors or for any contributor in the space but there you have it. |
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Statement has been revised by request to remind readers that work on scalability has been on going. I have not moved any signatures from the old version to the new version, so @maaku will need to post again if they want to add his signature. Sorry for the inconvenience. |
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morcos
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Dec 21, 2015
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coblee
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Dec 21, 2015
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paveljanik
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Dec 21, 2015
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ACK statement. |
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ACK on Coinkite's behalf |
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domob1812
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Dec 21, 2015
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jmcorgan
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Dec 21, 2015
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cdecker
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Dec 21, 2015
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theuni
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Dec 21, 2015
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jrmithdobbs
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Dec 21, 2015
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ACK statement But barely a recognizable ... ;p |
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ACK new statement. On December 21, 2015 6:46:33 AM PST, "David A. Harding" notifications@github.com wrote:
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wtogami
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Dec 21, 2015
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sdaftuar
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Dec 21, 2015
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randy-waterhouse
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Dec 21, 2015
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ACK statement (on my behalf and for Ledger) disclaimer : not a core developer, but apparently this moved to a wider audience. Definitely willing to support that plan in Ledger products (wallet & security devices) |
Aquentus
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Dec 21, 2015
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NACK. There is no actual timeline for SW. I am not sure there is even a BIP for it. It seems to be more medium to long term planing suggestions, rather than anything short term. With the blocksize limit currently hit, there is a desperate need for a short term kick the can solution so as to allow breathing space for medium-longer term progression. SW is far too complex to in any way be a short term breather for, as we all know, it will take years for the entire ecosystem to upgrade. Moreover, it is not for bitcoin.org to engage in press releases. That makes the website sound far too official and appears to create official communication channels, thus appearing to create a governance system, which is antithetical to bitcoin's core concepts of decentralisation. |
DavidVorick
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Dec 21, 2015
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morcos
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Dec 21, 2015
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@Aquentus This is not meant to be a definitive statement on the evolution of the bitcoin protocol. It is meant to be an expression of the direction of development that the Bitcoin Core software project is going to take at this time. Almost all of the developers on the project share the same viewpoint on how to proceed, so this PR is meant to clarify that to a larger audience so we can move away from continued discussions of short term block size increase hard forks. We have a lot of work to do and we want to share what it is. |
harding
merged commit 2a9d7e8
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Dec 21, 2015
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Note: this PR has been merged, but known community members may still add their signatures here by saying "ACK statement". I'll add the signatures to the live page in batches every few hours for the next few days. |
Aquentus
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Dec 21, 2015
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@morcos I am not sure how any developer can sign up to a complex change of some of the most security sensitive parameters of bitcoin - sig validation - without even a BIP setting out the details. Moreover, as I stated, any such proposed changes are likely to take many months to be implemented by core, and then probably years to be implemented by the ecosystem. Therefore it does not in any way address the very real and pressing current issue of full transaction capacity. Even more than that there is a fundamental decentralisation issue here in that bitcoin.org is seen to speak on behalf of core developers who in turn are seen to "control" bitcoin. This creates the appearance of a governance system which is utterly dangerous for bitcoin.org, for the core developers, and for bitcoin itself. We have already read the above "roadmap". Nothing whatever is gained by re-iterating it again. |
eragmus
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Dec 21, 2015
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ACK statement (disclaimer: not a Core contributor of code, so not sure if I count -feel free to ignore-, but strong supporter of: decentralization-first approach that respects Bitcoin's properties as cryptocurrency & the careful, wise, thoughtful, longterm-health decision-making of Pieter, Wladimir, Greg, Adam, et al. -- Support: Capacity Increase plan, and specifically for short-term: SW soft-fork, soon after followed by: 102/202/248 as based on holistic/feasibility considerations.) |
DimmestBummer
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Dec 21, 2015
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Bitcoin needs plans created by experts not by coders. According to Dr. Peter Rizun, managing editor of the academic journal Ledger, it is "clear that [Greg Maxwell] actually has a fairly superficial understanding of large swaths of computer science, information theory, physics and mathematics." In other words: Maxwell is not an expert. Why would anyone follow plans set by Maxwell and ignore the advice of actual experts in mathematics and economics (like Rizun and Andresen)? This is a mutiny and a reversal of leadership. Coders like Maxwell should not have any more authority than tab and semicolon placement. Economic decisions like scalability should be left to the experts. |
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Welcome to GitHub, @Aquentus and @DimmestBummer. If you want to sign the statement, please say "ACK statement". If you oppose the ideas in the statement, please make your argument in an appropriate forum. The Bitcoin Core pages on bitcoin.org/bitcoin-core/ are for Bitcoin Core developers. Further comments will be deleted. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me directly. |
bramcohen
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Dec 21, 2015
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shangzhou
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Dec 21, 2015
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ACK statement PS.not a contributor,just an Bitcoin user. |
midnightmagic
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Dec 21, 2015
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EtherTyper
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Dec 22, 2015
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maaku
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Dec 22, 2015
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re-ACK updated statement. |
OmniEdge
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Dec 22, 2015
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ACK statement Disclaimer: not a Core contributor. I am more interested in strategy and agree with this roadmap. |
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ACK statement do not contribute a lot though, only on bip68, I let you decide if you want to add my name. :) |
devrandom
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Dec 22, 2015
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wangchun
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Dec 22, 2015
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flound1129
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Dec 22, 2015
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NACK. Gregory's email is not a roadmap, it's barely a statement of intent. SW cost/benefit and risk appears very high compared to a flat block size increase. |
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Joukehofman
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Dec 22, 2015
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ACK statement on behalf of Bitonic |
anderspatriksvensson
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Dec 22, 2015
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(ACK statement) In brackets as I'm not a contributor. |
bgorlick
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Dec 22, 2015
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FinalHash
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Dec 22, 2015
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UnACK statement -- Marshall Long of FinalHash |
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obi
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Dec 22, 2015
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ACK statement - As a UK based bitcoin exchange, Coinfloor feels that the direction outlined in the original statement is in the best interests of Bitcoin and the Bitcoin community in the short, medium and long run. Although not core contributors, we think it is important to show that there are bitcoin exchanges that are happy to use and support Segregated Witness, Lightning Network, etc. |
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ACK statement (Infrequent contributor to Bitcoin Core, contributor to Mastercoin/Omni -- this ACK is on behalf of myself.) |
ghtdak
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Dec 22, 2015
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Note: if you speak for an organization or product (such as a miner or wallet), you may add that into your ACK (or edit your existing ACK). We will assume by default that you are ACKing only on behalf of yourself. |
Kixunil
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Dec 22, 2015
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Not contributor but I like segwit and other ideas seem reasonable to me too. Keep up good work and thank you! |
arowser
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Dec 22, 2015
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flix1
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Dec 22, 2015
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maraoz
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Dec 22, 2015
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ghost
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Dec 22, 2015
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ACK statement on behalf of Bitcoinpaygate |
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ACK statement on behalf of breadwallet (We intend to implement segwit to launch simultaneously with the roll out. I'd also like to put emphasis on "but they [hard-fork max block size increases] will be critically important long term", from the statement. We must be extremely conservative and keep the network functioning as it has been, with fees incentivized through prevailing relay policy and miner tx selection policy, not hard blocksize limits.) |
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ACK statement on behalf of Blocktrail |
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NBitcoin will be updated as soon as segwit is merged, so .NET bitcoin software will be able to enjoy it very quickly. |
raulyaoyuan
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Dec 23, 2015
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bip32JP
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Dec 23, 2015
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ACK statement on behalf bitbank Inc. Writing up Japanese translation right now. |
gabridome
referenced this pull request
in assobit/bitcoin.org
Dec 24, 2015
Merged
Update capacity-increases.md #1
SuperHanZi
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Dec 25, 2015
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ACK Statement, by ZhangLian.info |
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raulyaoyuan
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Dec 29, 2015
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ACK statement on behalf bw.com. |
aawilliams
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Dec 30, 2015
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ABISprotocol
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Dec 31, 2015
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I'm keeping an open mind so have declined to sign on to statements as much could occur in the near future. |
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- ACK statement re: Gregory Maxwell's "Capacity increases for the Bitcoin system" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGrBAEBCACVBQJWhb49XhSAAAAAABUAQGJsb2NraGFzaEBiaXRjb2luLm9yZzAw |
AvatarX001
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Jan 1, 2016
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- ACK statement https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-December/011865.html iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWkYSyAAoJEDzYwH8LXOFOWXMH+waxYK2U/teWOMOH4dPrh2ED |
narula
referenced this pull request
in bitcoin-core/bitcoincore.org
Jan 13, 2016
Closed
ACKs on the site? #19
vxst
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Jan 17, 2016
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ACK statement PS. not a contributor, just a Bitcoin user. Developing some product related to Bitcoin. |
rebroad
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Jan 17, 2016
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NACK statement while it focuses on "increases"... if it said "capacity adjustments" then I'd ACK it, as at points in the future it may be that to scale capacity needs to be decreased, and I'd rather the roadmap was open-minded enough to that possibility also. NACK, also for these reasons: https://chrispacia.wordpress.com/2016/01/11/against-softforks/ |
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New signatures should be added here: bitcoin-core/website#53 I'm going to lock this issue now so nobody accidentally posts here. |


harding commentedDec 20, 2015
Link: Capacity increases for the Bitcoin system
If you're a known contributor and want to add your signature, please make a comment saying "ACK statement" and I will add your name as provided on your GitHub profile.