diff --git a/src/receive_imf.rs b/src/receive_imf.rs
index 86ae562d2a..89714b22d5 100644
--- a/src/receive_imf.rs
+++ b/src/receive_imf.rs
@@ -2866,15 +2866,6 @@ async fn apply_group_changes(
     let (mut removed_id, mut added_id) = (None, None);
     let mut better_msg = None;
     let mut silent = false;
-
-    // True if a Delta Chat client has explicitly added our current primary address.
-    let self_added =
-        if let Some(added_addr) = mime_parser.get_header(HeaderDef::ChatGroupMemberAdded) {
-            addr_cmp(&context.get_primary_self_addr().await?, added_addr)
-        } else {
-            false
-        };
-
     let chat_contacts =
         HashSet::<ContactId>::from_iter(chat::get_chat_contacts(context, chat.id).await?);
     let is_from_in_chat =
@@ -3004,6 +2995,15 @@ async fn apply_group_changes(
             .await?;
         } else {
             let mut new_members: HashSet<ContactId>;
+            // True if a Delta Chat client has explicitly and really added our primary address to an
+            // already existing group.
+            let self_added =
+                if let Some(added_addr) = mime_parser.get_header(HeaderDef::ChatGroupMemberAdded) {
+                    addr_cmp(&context.get_primary_self_addr().await?, added_addr)
+                        && !chat_contacts.contains(&ContactId::SELF)
+                } else {
+                    false
+                };
             if self_added {
                 new_members = HashSet::from_iter(to_ids_flat.iter().copied());
                 new_members.insert(ContactId::SELF);
@@ -3070,17 +3070,18 @@ async fn apply_group_changes(
         .collect();
 
     if let Some(added_id) = added_id {
-        if !added_ids.remove(&added_id) && !self_added {
-            // No-op "Member added" message.
-            //
-            // Trash it.
+        if !added_ids.remove(&added_id) && added_id != ContactId::SELF {
+            // No-op "Member added" message. An exception is self-addition messages because they at
+            // least must be shown when a chat is created on our side.
             better_msg = Some(String::new());
         }
     }
     if let Some(removed_id) = removed_id {
         removed_ids.remove(&removed_id);
     }
-    let group_changes_msgs = if self_added {
+    let group_changes_msgs = if !chat_contacts.contains(&ContactId::SELF)
+        && new_chat_contacts.contains(&ContactId::SELF)
+    {
         Vec::new()
     } else {
         group_changes_msgs(context, &added_ids, &removed_ids, chat.id).await?
diff --git a/src/tests/verified_chats.rs b/src/tests/verified_chats.rs
index 2a85dbc026..ebfb85ce07 100644
--- a/src/tests/verified_chats.rs
+++ b/src/tests/verified_chats.rs
@@ -799,7 +799,12 @@ async fn test_verified_chat_editor_reordering() -> Result<()> {
 
     tcm.section("Charlie receives member added message");
     charlie.recv_msg(&sent_member_added_msg).await;
-
+    charlie
+        .golden_test_chat(
+            charlie_received_xdc.chat_id,
+            "verified_chats_editor_reordering",
+        )
+        .await;
     Ok(())
 }
 
diff --git a/test-data/golden/verified_chats_editor_reordering b/test-data/golden/verified_chats_editor_reordering
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..21b949fb2b
--- /dev/null
+++ b/test-data/golden/verified_chats_editor_reordering
@@ -0,0 +1,11 @@
+Group#Chat#11: Group [3 member(s)] 🛡️
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
+Msg#11: info (Contact#Contact#Info): alice@example.org invited you to join this group.
+
+Waiting for the device of alice@example.org to reply… [NOTICED][INFO]
+Msg#13: info (Contact#Contact#Info): alice@example.org replied, waiting for being added to the group… [NOTICED][INFO]
+Msg#16🔒:  (Contact#Contact#11):  [FRESH]
+Msg#18: info (Contact#Contact#Info): Messages are end-to-end encrypted. [NOTICED][INFO 🛡️]
+Msg#19: info (Contact#Contact#Info): Member bob@example.net added. [NOTICED][INFO]
+Msg#20🔒:  (Contact#Contact#10): Member Me added by alice@example.org. [FRESH][INFO]
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------