Mailing List Migration
Julian C. Dunn <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Migration Status - Complete
The details below are being maintained to provide insight on motivation for the switch and for other historical purposes.
Mailing List Migration
This RFC proposes the migration of all existing Chef mailing lists
Discourse. Discourse is a modern web application
for discussion forums that can also be used like a mailing list with
subscriptions and mail-in responses and posts.
As a user of Chef, I want the Chef mailing lists on a reliable and easy-to-use platform, So that I can easily collaborate with others in the community. As a system administrator working at Chef Software, Inc., I want to retire the old mailing list system & not manage one in-house, So that I can focus my attention on higher-priority infrastructure issues.
This RFC proposes to migrate the existing Sympa-run mailing lists at
lists.opscode.com to Discourse.
There are only two mailing lists of note:
desired group names would be the same, but if
chef is already taken,
we propose that the new group name become
All existing subscribers on the current mailing list(s) would be migrated to their counterparts on Discourse.
Chef Software, Inc. will make a reasonable attempt to migrate the archives of each of these mailing lists out of Sympa, potentially using a tool like sympa-data-exporter and into Discourse.
However, we recognize that this may not be feasible. If it is not, we will simply create a static HTML site of the old Sympa archives and publish that.
The existing mailing list system at lists.opscode.com, Sympa, is very old and fragile. Additionally, it is not a delightful experience for end-users of Chef, who must navigate a non-intuitive interface to subscribe to, unsubscribe from, and view the archives of the Chef user and developer mailing lists.
There have been previous efforts dating to 2012 to try and migrate off Sympa, but none have succeeded thus far.
In February, 2015, we attempted a move to Google Groups. This failed because we immediately exceeded the allowable number of messages for our group. Our group is tied to our business google apps account which should have the limit increased in April of 2015 but there's no guarantee that the system will then support our group. It's best not to proceed with Google Groups.
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