diff --git a/delimited/container.py b/delimited/container.py
index ea4612b..7169e8b 100644
--- a/delimited/container.py
+++ b/delimited/container.py
@@ -102,7 +102,8 @@ def _unwrap(self, data):
     def unwrap(self):
         return self._unwrap(self)
 
-    def _access_handler(self, haystack, segment, path, i, kwargs={}):
+    # def _access_handler(self, haystack, segment, path, i, default=None, _update_function=None, _update_kwargs=None):
+    def _access_handler(self, haystack, segment, path, i, default=None):
         return haystack[segment], None
 
     def _access(self, path=None, create=False, _update_function=None, _update_kwargs={}):
@@ -139,13 +140,22 @@ def _access(self, path=None, create=False, _update_function=None, _update_kwargs
                     
                 else:
                     function = self._access_handler
-                    kwargs.update({
-                        "kwargs": {
-                            "create": create,
-                            "_update_function": _update_function,
-                            "_update_kwargs": _update_kwargs
-                        }
-                    })
+                    
+                    # create closure for default method that access handler
+                    # should call if no special logic applied 
+                    def default(**kwargs):
+                        return haystack[segment], None
+                        
+                        # return self._access_handler_no_override(**{
+                        #     "haystack": haystack,
+                        #     "segment": s,
+                        #     "path": path,
+                        #     "i": i,
+                        #     "_update_function": _update_function,
+                        #     "_update_kwargs": _update_kwargs
+                        # })
+                    
+                    kwargs.update({"default": default})
                 
                 haystack, status = function(**kwargs)
     
diff --git a/test/test_mapping.py b/test/test_mapping.py
index 6a4862f..093de9d 100644
--- a/test/test_mapping.py
+++ b/test/test_mapping.py
@@ -223,21 +223,33 @@ def test_ref__subclassing(self):
         
         class Foo(NestedDict):
             
-            def _access_handler(self, haystack, segment, path, i, kwargs):
+            def _access_handler(self, haystack, segment, path, i, default):
             
-                if isinstance(haystack[segment], Foo):
+                if isinstance(haystack[segment], Foo):                    
                     model = haystack[segment]
                     haystack = model.get(path.after(i))
                     status = {"child": True}
                     raise StopPathIteration(haystack, status)
              
-                return super()._access_handler(haystack, segment, path, i)
+                return default()
                 
         child = Foo({"k": "v"})
         parent = Foo({"child": child})
         
         value = parent.get("child")
-    
+        
+    def test_ref__subclassing2(self):
+        
+        class Foo(NestedDict):
+            
+            def _access_handler(self, haystack, segment, path, i, default):
+                return default()
+                
+        child = Foo({"k": "v"})
+        parent = Foo({"child": child})
+        
+        parent.get("child")
+
     # get
     
     def test_get__string_arg__returns_value(self):