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Periodical #23

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rmzelle opened this issue Jan 19, 2011 · 22 comments
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Periodical #23

rmzelle opened this issue Jan 19, 2011 · 22 comments

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@rmzelle
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rmzelle commented Jan 19, 2011

There have been requests for a "Periodical" item type, but the idea is still rough.

https://github.com/ajlyon/zotero-bits/wiki/PeriodicalType

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Many requests for periodical item type (mine and others') asked for citing entire runs of periodical. These are cited in bibliography. Here is an example of a request: http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/13117/ Entire periodical issues should be cited via the article item type which has all the necessary fields, including "editor" for issue editors.

The fields to include:
Title
Type (journal, magazine, newspaper)
Frequency (monthly, weekly, daily)
Place published
Publisher
Start Year
End Year

This info is crucial in research and it would be great to include this item type. There is an old ticket that includes this request: https://www.zotero.org/trac/ticket/661

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avram commented Feb 7, 2011

Could we have this handle both single issues and entire runs by simply using date ranges and ranges for issue and volume?

What about CSL mappings?

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erazlogo commented Feb 9, 2011

Well, a special issue of a journal requires the issue title and editor. Periodical does not require these fields.

You create two new types, "journal issue" and "periodical."

Or, you can add a "Type" field to journal article instead of the journal issue item type--this will also make it possible to cite journal issues (see example 2 below).

see CMS 16:

14.187 Special issues

A journal issue (occasionally a double issue) devoted to a single theme is known as a special issue. It carries the normal volume and issue number (or numbers if a double issue). Such an issue may have an editor and a title of its own. An article within the issue is cited as in the first example; a special issue as a whole may be cited as in the second example.

42. Sassler, Sharon, “Learning to Be an ‘American Lady’? Ethnic Variation in Daughters’ Pursuits in the Early 1900s,” in “Emergent and Reconfigured Forms of Family Life,” ed. Lora Bex Lempert and Marjorie L. DeVault, special issue, Gender and Society 14, no. 1 (2000): 201–2, http://0-www.jstor.org.mercury.concordia.ca/stable/190427.

Good, Thomas L., ed. “Non-Subject-Matter Outcomes of Schooling.” Special issue, Elementary School Journal 99, no. 5 (1999).

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erazlogo commented Feb 9, 2011

On the periodical (entire run) all fields are mapped to CSL, except frequency--not sure where that would go.

@gracile-fr
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What about an "abbreviation" field?

@erazlogo
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Yes definitely abbreviation field would be great.

@avram
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avram commented May 21, 2011

There is a suggestion to add ISBN for Periodical: http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/17641/importing-from-endnotes/#Item_15

Thoughts?

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rmzelle commented May 21, 2011

Another example to the one mentioned in the thread is "Topics in Current Genetics": http://springerlink.metapress.com/content/110358/

But the ISBNs are assigned to the individual books in the book series, whereas the ISSNs are assigned to the book series as a whole. So I don't think that the "periodical" item type should get a ISBN field.

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avram commented May 22, 2011

I was under the impression that user was presenting examples of periodicals in which issues each have an ISBN-- since we've discussed the possibility of "periodical" covering both complete issues and entire runs of a journal, the former case could require the ISBN. If, of course, those issues with ISBNs are in fact just books, and we have no evidence to the contrary, then we can withdraw the proposal and just add ISSN to "book", which is planned already.

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avram commented Sep 20, 2011

It has been pointed out (http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/15636/3/changes-to-fields-and-item-types-for-zotero-31-/#Item_19) that some periodical issues have per-issue numbering, and some have, say, per-volume numbering (similarly for supplements, special issues, and other periodical-like items). So it sounds like we want both "numPages" and "pages" for this type (even though, as I believe Bruce pointed out once, the former is sometimes easily derived from the latter).

@aurelberra
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I'm reviving this thread, because it seems the problem hasn't been dealt with in more recent versions of Zotero. I also think that a type is sorely needed for whole (edited) issues of a journal.

@adam3smith
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that's why the ticket is open. No new item types and fields have been added to Zotero since this ticket was opened.

@adam3smith adam3smith added this to the CSL 1.2 milestone Apr 26, 2018
@storytracer
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+1 As a historian, it is the standard case for me that I have entire volumes of newspapers or periodicals in a single PDF file. The "Periodical" item type is essential for me and a most of my colleagues.

@denismaier denismaier added this to Proposed in Proposal Review Apr 19, 2020
@denismaier denismaier moved this from Proposed to Next in Proposal Review Apr 20, 2020
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So, we can just add a new type periodical right to cite the periodical as a whole. Concerning the fields, I think we will only need to add a frequency field.

Ok?

@brandelune
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It looks like the checkout code does not yet include this periodical type. Am I wrong ?

@bwiernik
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bwiernik commented May 5, 2021

I am not sure what you mean by checkout code. This repository does not contain any code. A periodical item type has been added to CSL 1.0.2 and will likely be added to a future Zotero version.

@brandelune
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I mean that I checked out the code (cloned it), built the app and thought that I'd see a "periodical" type after reading all the issues related to that discussion and did not find it.

@dstillman
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Still not clear what code you're talking about, but this entire repo is just for tracking future schema changes. It doesn't have anything to do with current Zotero code.

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bwiernik commented May 5, 2021

This repository has no code.

The issue tracker was historically a place where changes to item types in CSL and Zotero were discussed. All of the discussed changes have been implemented in CSL. It now serves as a bit of a checklist for the Zotero devs as they update item types and fields in a future Zotero version.

@dstillman It might be a good idea to archive this repository or disable new issues or comments?

@brandelune
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I know that this repository has no code, but tracking this "periodical type" issue led me here and since the issue is not closed I allowed myself a comment regarding the fact that that new type is supposed to be implemented somewhere and I just cloned Zotero's code, built it and it is not there. Hence my comment here regarding the fact that the type did not seem to be implemented yet.

@denismaier
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I allowed myself a comment regarding the fact that that new type is supposed to be implemented somewhere and I just cloned Zotero's code, built it and it is not there.

Yes, the code is implemented in CSL, but it still needs to be added to Zotero, which is why the issue is still open with the Zotero label attached.

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bwiernik commented May 5, 2021

The best place to discuss future updates to Zotero fields is this thread https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/15636/changes-to-fields-and-item-types-for-zotero-5-1/p16

Zotero item type and field updates are underway. They will be announced when implemented

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