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Vote on topics for future CNCF Technology Radars #35
If you are interested in learning what end users recommend for a cloud native use case, add a comment below or +1 to vote. Examples could be categories from the CNCF Landscape, or industry verticals such as financial services.
Topics will be selected quarterly by the editorial team as the basis for a CNCF Technology Radar.
Cheryl, I've done this type of project before. Here are a few suggestions:
Make sure to have a link to the actual tool/product being evaluated. Make sure to time stamp the assessments.
Review the quarterly assessments at a meeting of CNCF end users. This way, you are not assigning a rating only based on the number of votes a technology initially gets.
Don't compromise on making this an invite-only activity.
And, in response to a tweet from @caniszczyk, I think the results should be made publicly available with the CNCF providing value to its members by only letting its end user community participate in making the ratings. Of course, I don't have insight into the membership sales pitch, so take that idea for what it's worth.
This is an activity meant for CNCF End Users who are actually running these projects in production and share this information amongst each other in a safe environment where there are no vendors, it's by design we do it this way. It is a membership benefit of becoming an official CNCF End User :)
1.Make sure to have a link to the actual tool/product being evaluated. Make sure to time stamp the assessments.
+1, it's definitely a point in time exercise.
Review the quarterly assessments at a meeting of CNCF end users. This way, you are not assigning a rating only based on the number of votes a technology initially gets.
The CNCF end users review the draft before it is released. Each radar will feature a different set of projects depending on the use case, so each technology will be assessed anew each time.
Don't compromise on making this an invite-only activity.
Also +1. I've already had people ask how they can get their project on the radar.
I think the results should be made publicly available with the CNCF providing value to its members by only letting its end user community participate in making the ratings.
Some of the end users don't have legal/PR permission to publicly state what they use, hence CNCF can publish only aggregrated and anonymized results.
@oicheryl The problem with a PDF is that it's not interactive. If I'm looking at a graphic with data points, I want to be able to click on the data points to see the source, think of a Grafana graph (or anything similar). Or at a minimum, a link to a specific line on a spreadsheet/webpage with the data. Which is the problem with a PDF, its just one monolithic thing. I want to send a link to someone else to a specific piece of info, not the whole monolithic thing.
Lastly, a pdf of a spreadsheet is again not interactive. Give people read access to the anonymized data, even if its just json/csv or google spreadsheet.
Reacted by Guntur Akhmad, Sougata Khan and Mischa Stolz
@travis-sobeck Got it, I'd absolutely love to make it more interactive. As the very first tech radar it's intentionally a bare bones MVP, but we can add all sorts of bells and whistles over time.
I really want to make this a useful resource for the wider community, so very happy to get the feedback and improve!
@mischapedia Zalando's tech radar was one of the original inspirations! We are building a new interactive portal which will include more information about the projects and the data behind the radar. Stay tuned...
It would be great to see the CNCF Technology Radar cover the left-to-right, from developer to production environment, all modern, commodity and specialist tooling inspired by the CNCF Landscape:
What this looks like in practice from the top of my head as a very much a lean pipeline:
VCS (GitHub, GitLab, etc)
CI/CD Tooling (Jenkins, GitHub, GitLab)
CI/CD Integrations (open source projects which support and implement testing frameworks, developer/code security, etc)
Orchestration (Docker, Serverless, K8s, etc)
CSP (Cloud Service Providers e.g. AWS, GCP, Azure)
Codification (HashiCorp/Terraform/Ansible/et al.)
..and much more (like most of the above in this thread).
We (App Delivery) would find it useful to have a Technology Radar covering Operators (as we are currently working on a Whitepaper), so e.g. which frameworks end-users are using and wich problems they solve/face using operators.
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Latest proposed topics by the tech radar team:
- Security and secret management
- On-prem cluster management
- Governance and compliance
- Storage and persistent volumes
- Cost management and optimization
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Nothing on service mesh this time, but maybe the future tech radar teams will choose it as a topic :)
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LawrenceHecht commentedon Jun 12, 2020
Cheryl, I've done this type of project before. Here are a few suggestions:
LawrenceHecht commentedon Jun 12, 2020
And, in response to a tweet from @caniszczyk, I think the results should be made publicly available with the CNCF providing value to its members by only letting its end user community participate in making the ratings. Of course, I don't have insight into the membership sales pitch, so take that idea for what it's worth.
caniszczyk commentedon Jun 12, 2020
@LawrenceHecht
This is an activity meant for CNCF End Users who are actually running these projects in production and share this information amongst each other in a safe environment where there are no vendors, it's by design we do it this way. It is a membership benefit of becoming an official CNCF End User :)
oicheryl commentedon Jun 14, 2020
@LawrenceHecht I appreciate the comments!
+1, it's definitely a point in time exercise.
The CNCF end users review the draft before it is released. Each radar will feature a different set of projects depending on the use case, so each technology will be assessed anew each time.
Also +1. I've already had people ask how they can get their project on the radar.
Some of the end users don't have legal/PR permission to publicly state what they use, hence CNCF can publish only aggregrated and anonymized results.
travis-sobeck commentedon Jun 15, 2020
I like the content, but PDFs are not a useful output medium for this kind of thing (imho).
oicheryl commentedon Jun 16, 2020
@travis-sobeck you mean the graphic? What don't you like about it?
travis-sobeck commentedon Jun 16, 2020
@oicheryl The problem with a PDF is that it's not interactive. If I'm looking at a graphic with data points, I want to be able to click on the data points to see the source, think of a Grafana graph (or anything similar). Or at a minimum, a link to a specific line on a spreadsheet/webpage with the data. Which is the problem with a PDF, its just one monolithic thing. I want to send a link to someone else to a specific piece of info, not the whole monolithic thing.
Lastly, a pdf of a spreadsheet is again not interactive. Give people read access to the anonymized data, even if its just json/csv or google spreadsheet.
oicheryl commentedon Jun 16, 2020
@travis-sobeck Got it, I'd absolutely love to make it more interactive. As the very first tech radar it's intentionally a bare bones MVP, but we can add all sorts of bells and whistles over time.
I really want to make this a useful resource for the wider community, so very happy to get the feedback and improve!
travis-sobeck commentedon Jun 16, 2020
@oicheryl Yeah, that's fair.
povilasv commentedon Jun 20, 2020
I would be interested to know what end users recommend for monitoring solutions :)
gadinaor commentedon Jun 22, 2020
@oicheryl very nice and useful initiative
Would be great to see this for:
KellyGriffin commentedon Jun 22, 2020
Great insight and very useful.
Voting for future ideas:
jcwinchell commentedon Jun 24, 2020
Love the concept! Flux was buried in my long list of things to check out and this moved it up towards the top.
I'd like to see radars for:
oicheryl commentedon Jun 24, 2020
@povilasv @gadinaor @KellyGriffin @jcwinchell I've noted your votes - please keep them coming!
cpretzer commentedon Jun 26, 2020
+1 for:
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oicheryl commentedon Aug 20, 2020
@mischapedia Zalando's tech radar was one of the original inspirations! We are building a new interactive portal which will include more information about the projects and the data behind the radar. Stay tuned...
tomkerkhove commentedon Sep 18, 2020
Autoscaling
itsLucario commentedon Sep 22, 2020
Smana commentedon Oct 2, 2020
Developer productivity ?
joseadanof commentedon Oct 3, 2020
Security & Compliance
o6uoq commentedon Oct 7, 2020
It would be great to see the CNCF Technology Radar cover the left-to-right, from developer to production environment, all modern, commodity and specialist tooling inspired by the CNCF Landscape:
What this looks like in practice from the top of my head as a very much a lean pipeline:
..and much more (like most of the above in this thread).
thschue commentedon Dec 1, 2020
We (App Delivery) would find it useful to have a Technology Radar covering Operators (as we are currently working on a Whitepaper), so e.g. which frameworks end-users are using and wich problems they solve/face using operators.
kgamanji commentedon Jan 8, 2021
Latest proposed topics by the tech radar team:
caniszczyk commentedon Jan 8, 2021
kgamanji commentedon Jan 8, 2021
Nothing on service mesh this time, but maybe the future tech radar teams will choose it as a topic :)
xmulligan commentedon May 5, 2021
I know services meshes are a hot topic, but cloud native penguins would also love to see one on fishing meshes
rootsongjc commentedon May 6, 2021
Looking forward to seeing the Sevice Mesh Radar.
jhanos commentedon Jun 25, 2022
Service Mesh Radar could be interesting
onlydole commentedon Jun 26, 2023
Closing this issue with a new process and Radar being brainstormed (more information coming in 2023 Q3).