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Do govts need CMSs, not frameworks? (or, "why no Ruby in government?") #30
TL;DR - I'm summarizing a good recent talk, and think there's a good topic of discussion here: Do governments really just need CMSs? Are we building for our own happiness rather than non-technical user joy and sustainability? (my summary, not her words)
Sarah Allen (ultrasaurus) -- a returning Presidential Innovation Fellow (PIF) who was at the Smithsonian Institution -- gave a talk at SF Ruby on Monday called:
"Why no Ruby in government?"
Sarah covered a lot about her experiences as a PIF, but also had one big point about the technology/government divide that I think was relevant here:
In her view, a large majority of government web projects are fundamentally CMS systems with a few customizations specific to the project.
Thought this would be a good forum to have a discussion of this.
When she got to DC, she didn't want to use PHP, but -- precisely because Ruby doesn't have any well-supported, "clear winner" CMSs -- she couldn't justify rebuilding a lot of the functionality that Wordpress or Drupal give you out-of-the-box.
While there are a bunch of Ruby CMSs ( https://www.ruby-toolbox.com/categories/content_management_systems ) there's nothing at the point of being a clear winner with a strong community providing lots of support.
See also the work Luke Fretwell has been doing for years to boot up small
Also Drupal in the federal government. Over the past couple of years
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Dave Guarino email@example.com:
Let's CodeAcross together this February 21-23:
I've always theorized that there are a lot of civic apps in Chicago that use Ruby-on-Rails because there's a lot of Rails devs here. (It was invented here and the Starter League teachers Rails) When I went up to Rockford, Illinois for a civic hackathon there - they built a number of their apps in the .net framework.
I'd be interested in doing a poll of the brigade and seeing what everyone uses.