ChatSecure can't connect through Orbot

[nexus4fun]

Hello, seems that Orbot + Chatsecure isn't working only on Cooperhead OS. The ChatSecure bug for Android 6.0 was fixed in version 14.2.3. I have AOSP Rom on my Moto G (Android 6.0.1) and Orbot + ChatSecure is working without any issues. On Cooperhead OS, seems that ChatSecure can't find Orbot, as it always show "Orbot doesn't appear to be runing.." I really like the work you are doing, but is there any possibility to fix this issue? If you need any more information about this issue, pleas say me what i must do :) as i am begginer...

[thestinger]

Which device are you using for CopperheadOS?

I suspect this is caused by hidepid=2 which is also going to be enabled in Android N.

[thestinger]

Which device are you using for CopperheadOS?

I suspect this is caused by hidepid=2 which is also going to be enabled in Android N.

[lagosazules]

I got exactly the same problem on Nexus 5

[lagosazules]

I got exactly the same problem on Nexus 5

[thestinger]

It needs to be confirmed that this doesn't also occur on the Android N preview builds. If it does, then it's simply caused by hidepid=2 and is an upstream bug in the apps since stock Android will be following CopperheadOS's lead on this.

[thestinger]

It needs to be confirmed that this doesn't also occur on the Android N preview builds. If it does, then it's simply caused by hidepid=2 and is an upstream bug in the apps since stock Android will be following CopperheadOS's lead on this.

[lagosazules]

I Can't find a Nexus 5 android N preview on devolper.android.com/download, no N for the 5 anymore?

[lagosazules]

I Can't find a Nexus 5 android N preview on devolper.android.com/download, no N for the 5 anymore?

[thestinger]

No preview doesn't mean they won't support it in the official release. There's a good chance it will only get Marshmallow security updates from this point onwards though.

[thestinger]

No preview doesn't mean they won't support it in the official release. There's a good chance it will only get Marshmallow security updates from this point onwards though.

[marix11]

Another client working good with orbot

[marix11]

Another client working good with orbot

[lagosazules]

Frdoid or Orfox working ok with Orbot but try to add a new or secret identity account in Chatsecure and it ask you to start Orbo, following bij a crash

[lagosazules]

Frdoid or Orfox working ok with Orbot but try to add a new or secret identity account in Chatsecure and it ask you to start Orbo, following bij a crash

[thestinger]

Going to need more information than that including logs from adb logcat.

[thestinger]

Going to need more information than that including logs from adb logcat.

[thestinger]

And if you're on the Nexus 5 you should try enabling PaX soft mode in developer settings whenever you run into problems with apps. The PaX userspace features don't support 64-bit ARM so that doesn't apply to the other devices yet.

[thestinger]

And if you're on the Nexus 5 you should try enabling PaX soft mode in developer settings whenever you run into problems with apps. The PaX userspace features don't support 64-bit ARM so that doesn't apply to the other devices yet.

[lagosazules]

Enabling or disable PaX soft mode, no result , i like to log but didn't fount out jet how to do this

[lagosazules]

Enabling or disable PaX soft mode, no result , i like to log but didn't fount out jet how to do this

[thelifeofjay]

@lagosazules follow the guidelines for proper bug reporting here https://github.com/copperhead/bugtracker#reporting-issues

[thelifeofjay]

@lagosazules follow the guidelines for proper bug reporting here https://github.com/copperhead/bugtracker#reporting-issues

[vanitasvitae]

Short question: Android Studio cannot find debuggable apps when I'm programming. Is this also caused by the hidepid flag?

[vanitasvitae]

Short question: Android Studio cannot find debuggable apps when I'm programming. Is this also caused by the hidepid flag?

[thestinger]

I doubt it has to do with hidepid. It was upstreamed, and I don't think we're missing any of the exceptions that are upstream.

It's not a userdebug build so that might not be supposed to work. You would need to find out if it's supposed to work on user builds before it could be considered as a bug. Having more kinds of builds isn't going to happen without significant funding.

[thestinger]

I doubt it has to do with hidepid. It was upstreamed, and I don't think we're missing any of the exceptions that are upstream.

It's not a userdebug build so that might not be supposed to work. You would need to find out if it's supposed to work on user builds before it could be considered as a bug. Having more kinds of builds isn't going to happen without significant funding.

[nexus4fun]

Hello, i have a Nexus 5 phone. Runing latest Cooperhead OS version. Orbot, ChatSecure and Orfox is latest versions downloaded from F-Droid. I logged two situations. Orbot + Orfox and Orbot + ChatSecure. Both cases Orbot was not running when i started Orfox or ChatSecure. Orfox launched Orbot itself and was working without any issues (just one thing i noticed is: when i select in Orbot "Use Default Iptables" than Orfox doesn't connect). ChatSecure i launched and tried to create "Burner account", got warning that Orbot isn't runing, i choosed to start it... I start Orbot and got same warning, that Orbot isn't runing... I attached logs of both cases.

Log Chatsecure.txt
Log Orfox.txt

[nexus4fun]

Hello, i have a Nexus 5 phone. Runing latest Cooperhead OS version. Orbot, ChatSecure and Orfox is latest versions downloaded from F-Droid. I logged two situations. Orbot + Orfox and Orbot + ChatSecure. Both cases Orbot was not running when i started Orfox or ChatSecure. Orfox launched Orbot itself and was working without any issues (just one thing i noticed is: when i select in Orbot "Use Default Iptables" than Orfox doesn't connect). ChatSecure i launched and tried to create "Burner account", got warning that Orbot isn't runing, i choosed to start it... I start Orbot and got same warning, that Orbot isn't runing... I attached logs of both cases.

Log Chatsecure.txt
Log Orfox.txt

[thestinger]

This is an upstream issue in OnionKit / NetCipher. It will also occur on stock Android N because hidepid=2 landed upstream. I don't think I should implement a workaround because it's also going to be broken on stock. It needs to be addressed in OnionKit / NetCipher instead. Ideally, Orbot would expose an IPC API for checking if it is running rather than relying on functionality that's not guaranteed to be there even with stock Android.

[thestinger]

This is an upstream issue in OnionKit / NetCipher. It will also occur on stock Android N because hidepid=2 landed upstream. I don't think I should implement a workaround because it's also going to be broken on stock. It needs to be addressed in OnionKit / NetCipher instead. Ideally, Orbot would expose an IPC API for checking if it is running rather than relying on functionality that's not guaranteed to be there even with stock Android.

[n8fr8]

We have fixed this in NetCipher, as it now uses an Intent API to query for status of Orbot. We will work to update ChatSecure as soon as we can to use this. In the meantime, you can use the Orbot VPN feature and just select ChatSecure in the Orbot settings transproxy app list, as one alternative solution.

[n8fr8]

We have fixed this in NetCipher, as it now uses an Intent API to query for status of Orbot. We will work to update ChatSecure as soon as we can to use this. In the meantime, you can use the Orbot VPN feature and just select ChatSecure in the Orbot settings transproxy app list, as one alternative solution.

[thestinger]

@n8fr8 Thanks! I assumed this was the same issue you mentioned on Twitter but I wasn't sure.

[thestinger]

@n8fr8 Thanks! I assumed this was the same issue you mentioned on Twitter but I wasn't sure.

[lagosazules]

@n8fr8
Still no ETA for a update?
"We have fixed this in NetCipher, as it now uses an Intent API to query for status of Orbot. We will work to update ChatSecure as soon as we can to use this"

This is not working on a non rooted CopperheadOS:
"In the meantime, you can use the Orbot VPN feature and just select ChatSecure in the Orbot settings transproxy app list, as one alternative solution."

Thanks in advance , I prefer Chatsecure above Conversations, Zom or Xabber

[lagosazules]

@n8fr8
Still no ETA for a update?
"We have fixed this in NetCipher, as it now uses an Intent API to query for status of Orbot. We will work to update ChatSecure as soon as we can to use this"

This is not working on a non rooted CopperheadOS:
"In the meantime, you can use the Orbot VPN feature and just select ChatSecure in the Orbot settings transproxy app list, as one alternative solution."

Thanks in advance , I prefer Chatsecure above Conversations, Zom or Xabber

[vanitasvitae]

@lagosazules It is fixed in NetCipher, but you cannot use OrbotHelper.isOrbotRunning. Apps have to check for running Orbot via Intent and BroadcastReceiver now.

[vanitasvitae]

@lagosazules It is fixed in NetCipher, but you cannot use OrbotHelper.isOrbotRunning. Apps have to check for running Orbot via Intent and BroadcastReceiver now.

[lagosazules]

Thanks for the fast answer, bus using a Nexus 5 with latest CopperheadOS MOB30J.2016.05.08.05.30.34, latest Chatsecure 14.2.3 and Orbot 15.1.2 still this restricions:

• Can't make a burner "Secret Identity" (Orbot doesn't apear to be running)
• Can't make a "New account" using the option "Connect via Tor" (Orbot doesn't apear to be running)
  without Orbot yes you can make a new account.

security level low and disable Pax make now difrence

Great combinacion Chatsecure, Orbot and CopperheadOS, hope to get it full working.

[lagosazules]

Thanks for the fast answer, bus using a Nexus 5 with latest CopperheadOS MOB30J.2016.05.08.05.30.34, latest Chatsecure 14.2.3 and Orbot 15.1.2 still this restricions:

• Can't make a burner "Secret Identity" (Orbot doesn't apear to be running)
• Can't make a "New account" using the option "Connect via Tor" (Orbot doesn't apear to be running)
  without Orbot yes you can make a new account.

security level low and disable Pax make now difrence

Great combinacion Chatsecure, Orbot and CopperheadOS, hope to get it full working.

[n8fr8]

We have not yet released our update of ChatSecure with the new Orbot API to make this work. This is on my medium priority list, and I'll try to get it done this week.

[n8fr8]

We have not yet released our update of ChatSecure with the new Orbot API to make this work. This is on my medium priority list, and I'll try to get it done this week.

[lagosazules]

perfect, thanks for the great work you are doing

[lagosazules]

perfect, thanks for the great work you are doing