You've been in this country for a long time now. You must have noticed quite a few differences between living in Indonesia and living in England. What's the most obvious thing that you've noticed?
In what way? Culturally or educationally?
Well, let's begin with families.
Oh, families. Yes, there's lots of differences.
What sort of differences? Family size or customs?
Well, in Indonesia, they have such a variety of types of people. Some of them are nuclear families. Some of them have quite a lot of children, depending on their religion.
Does it depend on where they live?
Yes, but then, of course, religion is also depending on their area.
So which groups tend to have the largest families?
Muslims usually have.
Sort of 5 or 6 or bigger than that?
Well, I left Indonesia a long time ago, but from the people that I know, I think 4 children is the average. Though there can be 6.