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App control listing empty #2083

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JonnyTech opened this Issue Oct 22, 2018 · 11 comments

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JonnyTech commented Oct 22, 2018

When selecting categories user and system together, the list clears and no apps are displayed.

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d4rken commented Oct 28, 2018

This is by design as an app can not be both user and system app, it's either.

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JonnyTech commented Oct 28, 2018

But as a filter, selecting to show both user and system apps, should show all apps - not none. I stumbled across this because I wanted to display non frozen apps and was confused when I got nothing in the list.

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d4rken commented Oct 28, 2018

The categories are "filters", so it will remove all entries that don't have that category (and there is no app that has both user and system category).

How would you change it?

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JonnyTech commented Oct 28, 2018

The categories have check boxes. Usually a ticked box means show and empty box is do not show. So to show all apps that are not frozen then intuitively one would select user and system while unchecking frozen. Is my logic flawed or is the selection method counter-intuitive?

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d4rken commented Oct 28, 2018

The categories have check boxes. Usually a ticked box means show and empty box is do not show. So to show all apps that are not frozen then intuitively one would select user and system while unchecking frozen. Is my logic flawed or is the selection method counter-intuitive?

In your system how would you filter such that only frozen system apps are shown?

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JonnyTech commented Oct 28, 2018

Maybe break up the frozen category into frozen system and frozen user apps, but that may complicate things and I would really need to see the code to make a better suggestion.

But back to the original issue: if there is a tick in both the system and user categories, why does that exclude all apps rather than include both categories?

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d4rken commented Oct 28, 2018

Maybe break up the frozen category into frozen system and frozen user apps, but that may complicate things

Now I want to view only frozen user apps that have a boot receiver, how do I do that ;).

and I would really need to see the code to make a better suggestion.

Why? It's not about the code.

But back to the original issue: if there is a tick in both the system and user categories, why does that exclude all apps rather than include both categories?

I think I have explained that, because there is no app that is both a system app and a user app. I think your confusion comes from the label "categories", the ticks act more like filters, the more filters you add, the less results you get.

So what's the solution? Make it a RadioGroup and only allow one category at a time?

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d4rken commented Oct 28, 2018

Or we just change the label from "Categories" to "Filters" 😆

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JonnyTech commented Oct 28, 2018

I think I have explained that, because there is no app that is both a system app and a user app. I think your confusion comes from the label "categories", the ticks act more like filters, the more filters you add, the less results you get.

By your logic, selecting All items should show nothing :)

Or we just change the label from "Categories" to "Filters"

It's your decision

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d4rken commented Oct 28, 2018

By your logic, selecting All items should show nothing :)

Yeah it doesn't seem to be a clear UI concept. If we stick with filters then "all items" should be replaced with a button that says "Clear filters" or something like that.

Or we just change the label from "Categories" to "Filters"

I'm 50/50 currently, which concept is more useful to the user? Filtering is more powerful then just "categories", I think the main issue with the current system is the confusion about how it works. Do you think changing the label to "Filter" would have helped in your case?

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JonnyTech commented Oct 28, 2018

Not sure. My user box says 40 items, and frozen shows 4 items. If I select both then 4 are listed. But people might see both boxes ticked and expect 40. Regardless of wording, there are two scenarios:

  • show all user apps and all frozen apps
  • show all user apps that are (ie filtered) frozen

Maybe it needs two columns:

STATE             USER       SYSTEM
ALL               [ ]         [ ]
RUNNING           [ ]         [ ]
FROZEN            [X]         [ ]
BOOT              [ ]         [ ]
STOPPED           [ ]         [ ]
NO APK            [ ]         [ ]

Am I overthinking this? Please tell me to stop!

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