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Instance field should be allowed in initializer expression when it is initialized via "" sugar. #3263

DartBot opened this issue May 27, 2012 · 4 comments
area-language Deprecated: New language issues should be filed at closed-as-intended type-enhancement


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DartBot commented May 27, 2012

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Try to create a new Arc: "var arc = new Arc.startingAt(Point.origin, 25.0, 0.0, 4.0);"

/// Immutable 2D cartesian point.
class Point2d {
  final double x,y;
  const Point2d(this.x, this.y);
  const Point2d.polar(double radians, [double radius = 1.0, Point2d origin = Point2d.origin]) :
    x = radius * Math.cos(radians) + origin.x,
    y = radius * Math.sin(radians) + origin.y;
  Point2d operator +(Point2d p) => new Point2d(x + p.x, y + p.y);
  Point2d operator -(Point2d p) => new Point2d(x - p.x, y - p.y);
  static final Point2d origin = const Point2d(0.0, 0.0);

/// Immutable planar arc.
class Arc {
  final double radius, startRadians, endRadians;
  final Point2d center;
    Point2d startPosition,
    this.endRadians) : center = startPosition - new Point2d.polar(startRadians, radius);

main() {
  var arc = new Arc.startingAt(Point2d.origin, 25.0, 0.0, 4.0);

Arc is instantiated; main() exits normally.

In editor:
    Cannot access an instance field in an initializer expression
At runtime:
    Error: line 31 pos 48: illegal access to 'this'

Dart Editor build 7905. OS X 10.7.4

I can't think of a reason to disallow access to an instance field when it appears in the parameter list using the "" sugar (especially since there is no other name that we can use to refer to it).

I can easily work around this by not using the "" sugar, but the sugar is sweet :-)

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kasperl commented May 29, 2012

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gbracha commented May 29, 2012

Access to this is disallowed in the initializer list for a reason: we can ensure consistent initialization.

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DartBot commented May 30, 2012

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I understand the reason for disallowing "this" in the initializer list, or maybe I don't :-) It seems like in this particular case, "" can be considered not an access to a field in "this", but rather as a name for an otherwise unnamed parameter.

For my education, could you briefly elaborate on why this is a bad idea?

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gbracha commented May 30, 2012

Uniform rules are hugely important. Special cases are, as a rule, a bad idea. While they look tempting based on a single example, unforeseen effects compound. So as a language designer, one develops a distinct antipathy for them on principle. Every such "featurette" also has an opportunity cost - time spent on it comes at the direct expense of something else.

This particular case is not worth spending cycles on. The sugar is there for a very simple, common case. If things are more complex, use the full length form. It won't actually be much longer.

@DartBot DartBot added Type-Enhancement area-language Deprecated: New language issues should be filed at closed-as-intended labels May 30, 2012
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