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Update 'ABIS GmbH' (community contribution) #812
Update 'ABIS GmbH' (community contribution) #812
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When I made a request via email in 2020-05 the wrote back "Gerne beantworten wir Ihnen Ihre Anfrage. Bitte haben Sie jedoch Verständnis dafür, dass wir eine Auskunft gem. Art. 15 DS-GVO nur dann erteilen können, wenn uns die im beigefügten Schreiben genannten Angaben in schriftlicher Form vorliegen.", so I guess |
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I can also confirm the comment on the company that they want an "eigenhändige Unterschrift", so i guess we should make a comment in the record? |
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This seems to depend on whether they have data on you. I got the (written) confirmation that they don't have any data on me by simply sending an email (in September 2020), without having to submit any additional requirements. As such, I don't think changing the record to 'fax' is a good idea. The signature isn't necessary in all cases, most users don't have access to a fax machine and according to the comment they also accept the signature via email. |
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Only slightly related: It would be great to have a supervisory authority decide whether the practice of requiring the signature is even lawful. The GDPR doesn't specify any "Formerfordernisse" and a signature obviously cannot be used for identification purposes. Unfortunately I cannot submit a complaint as they didn't want a signature for my request. :D |
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Ok, I'll do. |
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Sent. I'll keep you up-to-date. |
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Great! Thanks. |
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So, should we update the record like this for the time being?
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Thanks!
Should we create an issue for the discussion regarding @rugk 's complaint or do we just use this PR? :D
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Problem solved. LDI Hessen:
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Wow, that is great! |
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@rugk I'm a little late to the party but that is indeed great. Thanks for submitting the complaint! I think it would be good to have a blog post on this for our website (this PR is kind of hard to find). That post could serve two important purposes: a) document that requiring signatures for requests is not OK and b) be an awesome (and unfortunately quite rare, thus far) example of a successful complaint that actually changed the situation for the better for everyone. Would you be OK with sharing a redacted copy of your correspondence with the LDI Hessen with me? That would make writing the post a lot easier. You can reach me via email (PGP key) or Matrix). But if you don't want that, that's obviously totally OK as well. |
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Done. (ID: |
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Or, of course you can FOI-request that communication from the LfDI Hessen. |
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Thank you! I have opened #524 for the post.
Good point! As someone from Lower Saxony that isn't a right I am used to having. :D |
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https://www.datenanfragen.de/blog/abis-unterschrift-dsgvo-anfragen/ |
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